Pac would expose Floyd

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  1. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Floyd schools Pac but I can see pac giving Floyd all he can handle though. One thing I noticed about FLOY is he doesn't like being pressured. I mean Corralles and Castillo are slow. And Floy can see every punch in the BOOK and they tend to slooww down rnd by rnd.Hoya pressured him but ran out of puff. Hatton pressured him and he got KTFO. But you can see how Floy looked uncomfortable. THEY KEY HERE IS NOT JUST PRESSURE.

    BUT LANDING A G"DAMN PUNCH. FLOYD is hard to hit he has one of the best defense. Can PAC land? If he can I really believe FLOYD will get a SHOOK of his life.But then again.
    Pac is tailor made for FLOYD.However i think it's not a one -sided fight many think. It will be close but the accuracy and defense defense of FLOY the main difference as well as he is bigger and fights correct.

    Not wild, not reckless, patient and smart.HIT AND NOT GET HIT. HE HAS IT DOWN TO A TEE.ALMOST PERFECTION. HIS TECHNIQUES ARE WAY BETTER. But apparently ROACH the genuis has a plan to crush that defence.

    So I think it will be an interesting contest. I give FLOYD the edge. But don't write of PAC.
    He might make FLOY run run run and run.
     
  2. gyll

    gyll Undetectable Full Member

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    Floyd missed a deadline. All of a sudden he's a ducker, a coward. Pac won't undergo random blood testing w/o a cutoff date, therefore he's either juicing or a suspect. See where I'm going with this? You either man up and deliver or you'll be put on the **** list. That's the name of the game that everyone seems to be playing. I would think you're aware of it by now. I'm fine with the majority of ESB members constantly pissing on Floyd. **** is hilarious to me. I see it as giving him an ego blow job since he thrives off getting attention. Why is it that you have to rise up from your seat everytime someone mentions Pac and steroids in the same sentence? Too soft to take a few verbal jabs?
     
  3. MrWonderful

    MrWonderful Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac's been exposed as a guy who just aint keen at boxing at 147, without any EPO in his veins.

    If Pac was willing to box clean, he'd have lost in march
     
  4. MrWonderful

    MrWonderful Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So, basically, Pacquiao can do what he wants with drugs for about 3 freaking months, as long as he passes a blood test after the fight?

    The only reason juicers don't like random tests, is the simple fact that they do all of their juicing in training camp
     
  5. MrWonderful

    MrWonderful Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Noticing you’ve got a picture of Mike Tyson as your profile avatar, I’ll assume you’re just one of these annoying fans who tags on to the most popular, overhyped KO merchant of his era.

    I imagine you were writing “Tyson dominates Ali. Knocks him out in 3 rounds” in about 1987. Well if you were alive then.

    If there’s one overhyped guy out of the two, it isn’t Mayweather. Floyd’s been dominating ALL styles of boxer for nearly a decade now.

    Brawlers, speed guys, slick guys, defensive guys, power guys.

    All Pacquiao’s done since Marquez showed the world that he’s completely average against anyone who can move, slip a punch and counter, is refuse to face any opponents who can move, slip a punch and counter.

    All Pacquiao’s done since Marquez exposed the guy is face a long line of old-ish, hand picked, brawlers, who “come to fight”. While refusing to face guys like Mosely or Marquez, no matter how much money they give him.

    Mayweather will go into the fight as a huge favourite. And it wouldn’t surprise anyone in boxing, who really knows the sport, if he outclasses him to the same extent that he did Mosely and Marquez.

    Pacquiao has a punchers chance. No more
     
  6. MrWonderful

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    Shane's not only faster than Pacquiao, but he's about 1000x times more accurate with his shots. And he probably punches about 5x as hard.

    Pacquiao's not very accuracte. And struggles to land any shots of note against skilled guys, with good defense.

    Look at the Clottey bout. He landed 11% of his shots!?
     
  7. MrWonderful

    MrWonderful Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pacquiao only faces “come to fight” brawlers for a reason, since Marquez exposed the guys weaknesses for the second time.

    Put him in with a guy who’s going to stand there and trade with him, he’s nigh on unbeatable.

    Put him in with a skilled guy, who can pick you off from distance, and who doesn’t want to brawl, and he generally gets exposed.

    Roach flat out refused to put Pacquiao in with Mosely as “he runs”. Translated, Pacquiao’s half the fighter, if you don’t stand there, and trade with him.

    Since Marquez, Pac’s rebuilt his career on a lot of carefully picked bouts, against ageing brawlers. Guy’s who aren’t going to ask him the sort of questions Marquez did.

    Just need to look at:

    1: How much Pacquiao got hit in the Clottey fight, on the counter, with power shots

    2: How many power shots he actually managed to land. 0. None.

    The only reason that bout wasn’t Marquez all over again, is that the guy has 0 power, and 0 aggression.

    If that was Shane Mosely on the other side, he’d have been in serious trouble taking shots like he was taking.

    Floyd just isn’t going to get hit much against Pacquiao. And he’s going to land on him at will.

    Pac would do well to last 12 rounds. Whether he’s allowed to juice up or not
     
  8. Pug1list

    Pug1list Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why use the Clottey fight as an example, Clottey didn't come to fight, he came to survive. Pac was clowning him.
     
  9. whoupicking?

    whoupicking? Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This thread starter needs to get pac's dick out of his arse. He clearly isn't thinking straight.
     
  10. retriever

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  11. AnthonyW

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    Mayweather looked ordinary against De la Hoya? If he fought someone like Matthew Hatton and didn't put on a show, or it was a close bout...then I'd say he looked ordinary...but against De la Hoya? :huh

    He can't take a punch? Your basing this off just the Mosley bout...he took two big rights hands which Mosley put everything into, and recovered very quickly.

    He freaks out under pressure? He looks very comfortable under pressure the majority of the time. He is a defensive boxer, when someone throws a punch...are you not supposed to block it whilst looking for an opening?

    Pacquiao is younger...but Pacquiao has been in a lot more wars, so I'd say Mayweather is the "younger" and fresher at this point.

    Pacquiao may be stylistic hell for Mayweather, but Mayweather is also stylistic hell for Pacquiao.

    The Mayweather Hatton bout was competitive for about 2 rounds.

    A prime De la Hoya would have a great chance at beating Mayweather...Mayweather beats any version of Mosley, but not comfortably.

    Pacquiao will expose him as what? Mayweather is a 5 weight World Champion...if Pacquiao wins a non controversial decision, he will be seen as the clear best of this era...whereas Mayweather will be right behind him. Is this what you mean when you say expose?

    Floyd is probably the sharpest counter puncher in the sport, but he has no answer to Pacquiao's offense? Does Pacquiao have an answer to Mayweather's defense/counterpunches?

    Mayweather gets destroyed rather easily? Like the time when Mayweather was destroyed by...oh wait...

    If you have watched any of Mayweather's earlier bouts, you will know he used to throw very good combinations. And yes he does even now string 3 punch combo's together, not sure about 4 though...:good
     
  12. itrymariti

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    Some interesting observations. The main thing that worries me is Mayweather's legs. He's always been worryingly flat-footed since moving up 130, but even more so post-layoff. If he can't keep Pacquiao at a distance he's in big trouble (though it would make for a real entertaining fight).
     
  13. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  14. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    Mayweather's not a very tough and durable guy?

    Your picking holes in Mayweather, but the same can be done with every boxer...including Pacquiao.

    You say what will Mayweather do to stop Pacquiao's attack...what will Pacquiao do if he can't break Mayweather's defense like he couldn't do against Clottey. Clottey stood there with his hands up for 12 rounds...but could Pacquiao work his body enough to lower his guard...no. Did Clottey connect with nearly every right hand he threw? Yes. Did Pacquiao become frustrated again? Yes.

    What happens if Pacquiao becomes frustrated and lets Mayweather into his head?
     
  15. PH|LLA

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    I agree with most of this but you ignore the fact that Floyd is bigger and stronger than Pac, and that Pac will have to overcome that to get in close. Cotto and Hatton were bigger but they came towards Pac. Their agressiveness was their undoing.

    Also, Pac's footwork and athleticism will not be there forever. Just like a past prime Hopkins was able to beat a past prime Roy even though Roy was better in his prime, Floyd would have the same kind of advantages.