Pacfans please make sense of this for me and explain

atsch

A.) If Pac isn't a legit WW, than why is he making JMM come to WW for a 3rd fight?

B.) The Cotto fight was for the WW title, why would they make Cotto cut to 145lbs if they didn't think it would trouble him??? For shits n giggles?

C.) Being a "true ww" or "natural ww" simply means that your most comfortable fighting weight is anywhere between 141lbs and 147lbs, which Pac's obviously is! Just because he can weigh in at 145lbs easier and more comfortably than Cotto, does not make him any less a WW fighter, it just makes him a snake ***** trying to steal every advantage.

D.) Why could Pac fight Delahoya at 147, but made Cotto the champ come to 145, and then he fought Clottey at 147??? Because they try and stack the deck in their favor at every turn....don't argue this, Roach admits it!

E.) Manny is no less a real WW than Floyd is at this point, so no, there is no size advantage for either of them at WW.

F.) Class is out of session. :hi:

 

Floyd's NEVER tested positive for any drugs....neither has Manny. BUT.......Floyd has come out and said he uses drugs that are illegal for his hands in other states....but are LEGAL in NV where he lives, fights and trains. So it's a non issues.

But what is an issues is that Manny has NEVER tested positive for any illegal drugs and he's NEVER said he's used anything illegal in the past, yet Floyd seems it necessary to have him (PAC) "clear his name" by taking olympic style testing. Which is basically a demand that stemmed from accusations that Floyd and his team created.:think

 

I thought Marquez's most recent fight was at WW?

 

That wasn't a fight, that was a humbling lesson in the sweet science from the 1st best boxer in the world to the 2nd best boxer in the world.

 

Oh, so it was a scam.

 

Pac against Clottey and all those drained has-beens is a scam.

 

Honestly dude, nobody really knew how JMM would be at that weight. Just a year or so back him and Pac were seemingly the same size, they were both neck and neck for the P4P #1 spot. Pacman proved he could "naturally" :yep move up to the weight, nobody knew JMM couldn't naturally move up also.

We all do know now that he definitely didn't fill out his body well at that weight though don't we. I know Roach and Pac know that :deal

 

Oh god... come on.

You are honestly confused by someone gradually coming up and someone jumping up to a catch weight the other guy refused to make?

 

They both fought at 135 before jumping up to fight at 147 in their next fight.

 

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WW weigh in for Marquez

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Pac WW weigh in.

 

Actually JMMs move up was more "gradual" than Pacs, moron.

March 08...........JMM 130..........Pac 130
June 08................................Pac 135
Sep 08...........JMM 135
Dec 08................................Pac 142 (When Oscar could weigh 147)
Feb 09...........JMM 135
May 09.................................Pac 138
Sep 09............JMM 142 (When Floyd weighed 146)
Nov 09.................................Pac 144

Pac made the same jump from 135 to 142 that JMM did, only he did it 9 months after their 2nd fight, JMM did it 18 months after. :deal

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LukeO the point is, before the Floyd fight, nobody knew that JMM couldn't make the same "natural" jump that Pac did and that Mosley did years back.

 

I know, but Marquez was not killing himself to make lightweight.

When that fight was announced EVERYONE was like "what the ****?"

Marquez is a lightweight counter puncher. That fight should have never happened. It wasn't fair to him. It was a GBP fight to make some money and bring floyd back into the boxing consciousness.

 

they cant they are to stupid

 

Manny is p4p best and FOTD and when you TS will be p4p best and FOTD,then you can do what ever you want!