Packey McFarland (of the Gibbons fight) Vs Sugar Ray Leonard (of the Hagler fight)

McFarland & Gibbons have a aggregate total record of 138 W 5 8 D.

If the fight goes 12 rds....Leonard by SD at MW.

1915-09-11 : Mike Gibbons 152 lbs lost to Packey McFarland 153 lbs by NWS in round 10 of 10

• Location: Brighton Beach Motordrome, Brooklyn, New York, USA
• Referee: Billy Joh

Attendance: 26,072. Gate receipts: $58,069.

• Newspaper decision for Gibbons from Grantland Rice (New York Tribune), Walter St. Denis (New York Globe), Jack Curley (New York American), Robert Edgren (New York Evening World), Brooklyn Eagle, Brooklyn Standard Union, Newark Sunday Call, Jack Malaney (Boston Journal), Associated Press (7-3 by rounds).
• Newspaper decision for McFarland from J.G. Vreeland (New York Morning World), Charley White (New York World), New York Herald, Eddy Carter (New York Sun), Mal Doyle (New York Press), Damon Runyon (New York American), New York Call, Abe Attell (New York Evening Telegram), Ring W. Lardner (Chicago Tribune), Bill Foreman (Chicago Herald), Nate Lewis (Chicago Examiner), Ed W. Smith (Chicago American), William H. Rocap (Philadelphia Public Ledger), Philadelphia Inquirer, George R. Holmes (United Press; 4-1-5 by rounds), Joe O’Neil (Los Angeles Times), Jimmy De Forest (Asbury Park Evening Press), Jack Lait (Minneapolis Tribune), Morning Oregonian (Portland), Allentown Democrat, United Press (another round-by-round report in Los Angeles Times).
• A draw from P.T. Knox (New York Evening Telegram), Bat Masterson (New York Morning Telegraph), New York Times, Tom Andrews (Milwaukee Leader), J.H. Ritchie (Minneapolis Journal).
• Billy Joh, the referee, expressed his private opinion that it should have been a draw. Willie Ritchie said it was "about a draw, with the shade, if any, to McFarland."
• New York Press report was not signed, but a secondary source mentioned that Mal Doyle (previously a boxing manager in St. Louis, MO) reported for that newspaper. The same secondary source listed Eddy Carter as the author of the New York Sun report, which was also unsigned. Boston Journal had its boxing writer Jack Malaney at ringside. Philadelphia Inquirer had its sporting editor at ringside. Los Angeles Times had its own reporter, Joe O'Neill, at ringside, and also printed a United Press round-by-round report that was completely different from more common United Press round-by-round report. (That one was identical to round-by-round printed in the Brooklyn Standard Union, so either it was written by the Standard-Union reporter, or the Standard-Union borrowed the United Press's round-by-round report in addition to its main report--which was probably written by Bill Rafter, sporting editor.) The Portland (OR) Morning Oregonian 's report was unsigned, but was different from other reports listed and explicitly stated that its author was at "front row seat" at ringside. Newark (NJ) Sunday Call had their staff correspondent at ringside. Abe Attell had a long write-up in the New York Evening Telegram, describing his impressions of the bout, so it's listed among the above newspaper decisions. The Brooklyn Daily Eagle 's report was unsigned, but was probably penned by sporting editor Abe Yager. Allentown Democrat and Allentown Leader (Pennsylvania) had their reporters at the bout, but only the Democrat printed it's own version, the Leader just quoting several New York newspapers. Boxing trainer Jimmy De Forest reported for a New Jersey newspaper Asbury Park Evening Press. Minneapolis Morning Tribune on Monday carried two reports - by W. S. Forman and Chicago playright Jack Lait.

 

F*cking hell!

 

Great fight … Packey hadn't fought in 2 years and he was the fighter always stuck in between 2 divisions as his best weight was around 138. Highly technical boxer, great mover with some power from the little I've seen but have read. Tough as hell and always wanted to fight,... SRL hadn't fought in a while either .. I'll take Ray .. too big for Packey but he won't stop him .. wins a UD

 

Packey McFarland stops Ray before the half way point.

Silly Question.

 

ray was too big. packey was a lightweight and vs Gibbons he actually looked a bit chubby at modern jr middle.

Leonard actually grew into a real middleweight...after all, he was 5´11. so sizewise he´d have the Edge. and he was a bit more talented, more fluent and faster. i´d go with Leonard by UD.

 

McFarland was too much out of shape and stale. It'd be more fair to match McFarland as he was in his London bout vs Welsh against Leonard of rematch with Duran.

 

Or maybe his fight with Britton in New York where he would be giving up 6 lbs instead of 12

 

I meant to ask—which parallels were you thinking of?

 

Coming out of a retirement to beat / show up a younger, bigger established top fighter.
Both results that are debatable.

 

Is this fight on youtube?

 

How do you think such a fight would pan out?

 

SRL dominates.