Packey McFarland vs Henry Armstrong

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  1. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    Just noticed there wasn't a thread on this, somehow? I thought there wouldve been a dozen at least.

    Both are monsters even in the late rounds, both were at some point the best fighter in 3 weight classes. Fight set at 135 for 20 rounds, 1910s ruleset. Who would you favor?
     
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  2. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    Armstrong.
     
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  3. The Malibu Mauler

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    I'd say Armstrong works his way to a hard-fought decision
     
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  4. George Crowcroft

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    Armstrong bulls him around and takes UD based on workrate.
     
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  5. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    I pick McFarland
     
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    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Who bulled McFarland around?
     
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  7. George Crowcroft

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    Who was as good as Armstrong?
     
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  8. Seamus

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    Who ever beat McFarland?

    Otherwise, this one is a bit of a headscratcher. I have to choose Armstrong based on depth of record to win a decision. I wish we had more film on McFarland. It's harder to imagine how their styles would mesh without it.
     
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  9. Woller

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    Who is Packey McFarland?
    The mane does not ring a bell for me.
     
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  10. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    One of the greatest fighters to ever exist, beat champions from Lightweight to Middleweight, atg P4P champions no less such as Freddie Welsh, Jack Britton and Mike Gibbons (dubiously held MW championship). He also fought some very strong contenders and beat them, such as Owen Moran and one of my favorites, Benny "the Tipton Slasher" Yanger

    Sadly Packey was heavily ducked and also had a knack for bad timing and never captured a title of his own. He retired with an official record of 70-0-5 but his true record is 106-1-6, the loss being early in his career (and there's still debate over whether his reported loss was the real Packey!) And had an absurd winning streak of 97-0-6 (totaling 103 fights unbeaten).

    I could go on about numerous other ridiculous feats such as how he was ring lorn and overweight for his triumph over Mike Gibbons and trained the legendary Barney Ross, but just know he's undoubtedly one of the greatest fighters to ever step in the ring and IMO a top 20 p4p staple
     
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  11. roughdiamond

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    I find it hard to pick against Armstrong. Both are great on the inside, where this battle would inevitably repeatedly clash, skill-wise favouring Packey, but the sheer pressure of Armstrong is undeniable. The outcome would all depend on whether Packey can keep away from and control center ring for long periods of time, or whether Henry could keep the sheer workrate up (pretty likely IMO).

    I have a feeling Packey's 'minimal mastery' style would fall prey to the sheer skilled, offbeat pressure of Armstrong in the end.
     
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  12. Jel

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    To be honest, there's not a single lightweight I could confidently pick H2H over Armstrong. Leonard is probably even money, Duran may be also, but to definitely beat him? No, I don't think so.
     
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  13. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    As a follow up question, would this fight go any different at 147?
     
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  14. BitPlayerVesti

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    I think McFarland's style would more be to force Armstrong back.

    That'd help McFarland who had trouble making lightweight.
     
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  15. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    Forcing that freak of nature back is easier said than done, even for someone who was built Chicago stockyards tough
     
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