PacMan : 7000calories /day,2000 sit ups, 10 miles a morning!

You couldn't possibly know.

High level boxers do stupid **** all the time. We're not allowed to question what they do because of their boxing status?

Ricky hatton does a bodybuilding weight routine including leg press, leg extensions and leg curls for high reps. Stupid and pointless to a boxer. Am I not allowed to say it's stupid just because he's a good boxer? I've seen many pro boxers training in a sweat suit to "burn more fat". That's just idiotic. But I'm not allowed to say that though am I because they're pro boxers and I may upset one of you guys...

This is why boxing is evolving so slow, everyone wants to stay in the past, how the pros trained which is some cases is dangerous (training in a sweat suit for example) and not anywhere near as productive as it could be, wasting time running 10 miles every day is a prime example.

 

haha yes it has go down but its sitll important just done abit more cleverly now than back in the day when 20 miles a day and such wasnt un heard of and going out smashing 10 miles a day every day at a fast pace was what was just done!

but anyway this thread about manny im not convicned doing 10 miles a day would actually help his boxing skill and im not conivnced he actually do 10 miles a day while i dont fink it would help him much i dont see it as being unconceivable and would actaully of thought he could do it although would be abit pointless if u ask me?

 

So you're fine with someone calling the training regime of the best boxing has to offer right now "******ed"? If that's the type of discussion you wish to participate in fill your boots mate.

Maybe the regime will be altered with age catching up on Pac but what can't be denied is the results to this point. I'd bet 99% of people who question it don't have the knowledge base to back their argument, virus fills that criteria.

SRL didn't have a sports nutritionist with the knowledge of Azira in his corner. I'm pretty sure things would have been different. Even back then people would have questioned it but we're all different, what works for you may not work for me. Results are irrefutable though and obviously SRL's programme worked for him, anything else is just speculation.

 

Say "regime" one more time....

 

What I do know is that whatever Pac does MUST have the thumbs up from Roach and Azira, the two most knowledgable people with regards to Pacs physiology. What I also know is the results are evident for all to see.

Again, what works for Pac may not work for others, it obviously works for him.

Hatton's regime reflects the results, did he beat Pac and Mayweather? And considering Hattons lifestyle outside the ring it's hardly a great comparrison.

Boxing may be evolving slow but every generation has one or two guys that can hang with the best and those guys usually do things a little differently than the rest. I know people who criticise Mayweathers pad routine but it obviously works doesn't it?

I believe the 10 mile thing is inflated, but even if it's true it's got the guy where he is. Whether he'd be better or worse off is just speculation, what I do know is that to lable it "******ed" is in itself ******ed considering the knowledge base and results.

 

I did say "programme" too.:yep

 

That's fine, mate, if you want to believe the bull**** info pro boxers dish out, go ahead. I prefer to question things and look at it from my own experience and knowing what others are capable of.

It's been stated in this thread that high level track athletes run 10 miles a day. Maybe you can explain why 10 miles every day for a pro boxer is so beneficial. I know he's the top P4P boxer and all that, I mean why you think it's so beneficial that I'm not allowed to have an opposing opinion on his training.

Also, like somebody else said, some of these guys are at their level in spite of their training, not because of it.

I'm asking for your opinion on his training, not "but he's the best so you can't question his training" like you keep saying.

Something works for everyone, but it may not be optimal.

 

agreed.:deal

10 miles a day for a boxer is stupid as boxing isnt a predomitally aerobic sport however training is both mental and physical so if thats what manny needs to do to get mentally right then thats fine however a 4-5 mile tempo threshold run would be much much more specific to the way a boxing fight is and would actaully increase his punch output rather than a 10 mile slow run at probably outside 8 minute pace. id be surprised if manny did 10 miles a day.

 

long intervals and tempo runs are what help boxing not slogging a 10 mile run at a **** jog pace. hows that gonna help?

 

just because manny does it doesnt mean its the best training and eveyrone should do it. manny doing it has nothing to do with what is the best and optimal for a boxer.

 

Great post.

Just curious though, what was your fitness like in boxing terms when you made the transition from being an 800m runner to a boxer? Being that you obviously did a lot of exercise/running and that 800m training can hit a pretty high heart rate, id imagine that it would have been a pretty good base. The only thing lacking I believe was actual muscle endurance, specially in the arms.

 

But here in lies the problem. You question things from your experience and what others are capable of, Manny doesn't fit that mould, he's very different.

Manny has probably ran 10 miles a day since he first got interested in the sport. It's developed his mental toughness and stamina, it's a part of who he is. I'd say telling someone who's done that for years to cut back to 4-6 miles a day could have negative consequences. I've already stated 10 miles a day would have a negative impact is the vast majority of boxers, but it appears Pacquiao is one of the few that actually benefits from it. I can't give you a clear answer as to why he benefits from it without knowing Manny's psychological and physological make up.

I disagree. Lifestyle and training is what a boxer is, genetics/natural tallent can only do so much. Take Michael Jordan as an example. People call him naturally gifted. What they forget is that from a young age when training was over he stayed behind for hours when everyone else went home and perfected his game, he done it differently from the norm and it worked for him.

My opinion is 10 miles does seem excessive and probably an exaggeration. But if he's been doing it all his life then his body and mind have adapted to it therefore imo it's more beneficial for him to continue doing it rather than change until his body tells him otherwise. If the leg cramps from the Mosley fight are to be believed that could be now.

 

Nigel Benn used to run 15 miles a day in high altitude, mostly uphill w/ wrist/ankle weights.

 

yeh he worked up to a point where he ran that distance and then tapered down it wasnt like he ran 15 miles a day for a long duration of time during his camp

 

No he didn't.

Though he did shadowbox with 20lb dumbells. Watching his fight against Watson, he LOOKED like he had weights in his hands. Some of the punches he landed were sickening.

Now is it a good idea to shadowbox with 20lb dumbells? No. Nigel Benn got some mileage out of it, but he was probably extremely strong before he ever did that sort of training, so it didn't really hurt him. May have helped.

But yeah, Benn ran a LOT, but 15 miles a day is just ridiculous. You can tell by looking at the guy that he didn't train that way. He stated something like 8-12 miles, depending on the stage in camp. And I don't think he was doing that every day.