pacman and the catch weight bs

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  1. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Cotto dropped one effing pound from Cotto last fight weight 146. 1 fukkin pound. whoopti doo!!

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  2. VanillaKilla

    VanillaKilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    bradley was NOT the best at the time...

    he only beat witter and holt , both really close sd's btw

    while hatton had wins over tszyu,mallagini, and urango.... all clear wins

    watch fights instead of just reading boxrec

    how can u say bradley was the best?

    whats your logic? im curious:think
     
  3. homebrand

    homebrand Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  4. Vitor Belfort

    Vitor Belfort Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Like it or not hatton was the number 1 fighter at 140. Pac went after the # 1 rank Jr welterweight. Hate all you want but that's a fact.:hi:
     
  5. homebrand

    homebrand Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :lol: stop it, you're killing me here.
     
  6. Vitor Belfort

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    :good
     
  7. bucktrain

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    Hey "dabox" answer this question for me... who had a catchweight fight first, Mayweather or Pacquiao?
     
  8. RKO

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    admit it! you're not a pac fan.
     
  9. kirk

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    dabox, if you think the requirement of being the man in the division, is holding an alphabet trinket.... then thats part of the problem.

    Do you know who the Ring Champion was? a title you actually have to earn and lose in the ring? It was Ricky Hatton, do you know who was ranked number one in the division by almost everyone especially after dominating malignaggi? Ricky Hatton.

    Holts biggest win to date when Pac started looking at the 140lb division (which again, Hatton was the ring champ of, and number one in ranking, how this is even in question is complete revisionist history) was Ricardo Torres! and had just previously come off a split decision over demitrius hopkins i believe.... and Pac is going to go from fighting oscar to SKIPPING over hatton who just was the first to TKO Malignaggi, and fight Holt, a guy that was usually around 5th - 6th in ranking, who the Ring themselves had a 6?

    Man, to me it seems your going a bit far to discredit the Pacman...

    and Bradley? I have Bradley as the man in the division, no doubt, now that hatton has been knocked off. When hatton became the man at 140, he had never lost SINCE there at the weight.... i dont care if boxing politics for one reason or another strip so and so and let so and so fight for it, that dont mean ****. Bradley at the time Pac and Hatton began negotiations biggest win was his decision over junior witter..... again, Pac isnt going to go from fighting Hoya, then look at the jr welterweights and pick Bradley over Hatton, who was still considered the man, the biggest name in the division, never lost at the weight, and was the Ring Champion.


    Now, do i personally think Bradley was a bit better then Hatton at that point in time? yes i do. But Hatton rightly had the number one spot and Bradley, although was next in line, in no way shape or form presented the more credible opponent at that period in time, then Hatton did. And to suggest such, in my opinion is just stretching a bit to try and discredit Pac.
     
  10. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    lets play a game, name everyone of Pacman's fights that were at catchweights

    ill start us off

    Pacquiao/Cotto = 145 lbs
     
  11. Powerman55

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    Clumsy and unintelligent article. Hatton's natural weight is 140, MAYWEATHER made Hatton go up to meet him at his best weight. Pac fought Hatton at Hatton's best weight, where he was unbeaten.

    Cotto, re-hydrated to almost 160 on fight night, outweighing Pac by over ten pounds. In the days of Henry Armstrong there were same day weigh ins so there was none of this re-hydrating bull****. Mosely would not even be able to fight in the WW division, he'd be too heavy.
     
  12. Vitor Belfort

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    ok ok
    delahoya at 147 wait that's welterweight limit
    Hatton at 140 wait that's the Jr welterweight limit
    diaz at 135 no that's the lightweight limit
    marquez at 130 no that's the super featherweight limit
    barrera at 130 no
    damn i give up :lol:
    TS can you give me the link of pacman other catchweight fights:lol:
     
  13. thesmokingm

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  14. nhojrem

    nhojrem Well-Known Member Full Member

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    no..it's the truth in which the ts keeps ignoring.
     
  15. dabox

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    the logic is in watching fighters fight,

    bradley is just a better fighter to me, and lets look at hatton's wins at 140...

    kostya was ancient, paul mallagini almost always loses when fighting top guys,

    while bradley was fighting the top guys in their prime....


    some mentioned the ring belt, and it's big importance

    yeah ok lets have a boxing magazine as the ulimate prize....


    like i said the he beat man who beat the man, makes sense on paper but
    reality is often different

    kinda hard to beat someone who woundnt get in the ring with you....and yes many champions deserve to be stripped of their belts

    like it or not.