Pacman ATG @ 140 (eating my words)

can you see anyone @140 beating pac of today? i cant

oh wait hes a natural 135 lber

 

Um...no...no I didn't.

Show me that post by all means, but no...

Trinidad isn't even on my all time great Middle list and if he's on yours on the strength of the Joppy fight then you're even more insane than I first thought...

 

trinidad is not an ATG at 160...but he should be ranked higher than joppy if we make a top 100 middleweight list:deal

 

What the hell are you talking about man? You're raving!

I'm saying that one fight in a weight class is not a body of work that covers 10 years of work from other fighters.

It's 2009, he has 18 months to fight say 4 fights at 140 and I might come around to saying he was the best of the 00's - But after one fight?

And I'm talking about Manny Pacquiao - Not William Joppy and Felix Trinidad - If I made a top ATG middle list, I would be very surprised to see Trinidad on it - It's a really hard division to rank due to the quality storied fighters in it.

Go smoke another cone mate!

 

pare, Pacquaio is still not in the all time top 10 jr. welterweight. Maybe if he stays and fights more in the division then he will be considered.

But as it is, his status as one of the ATG in his boxing career is already stamped.

 

im just comparing man, the moment trinidad beat joppy, he already outranked him in the top 100 middleweights ever

 

Now that I agree with wholeheartedly!

 

anybody else put on an ATG 140 performance like Pacquiao did last Saturday in two rounds against superior competition?

 

Not by me, which you said I did...

It's not the same at all.

Now take the same example - Trinidad goes up to 160 and beats Hopkins in his first fight at 160 in 2 rounds, then fought say, Roy Jones Jnr at 168/175 - I STILL wouldn't rank Trinidad as an ATG middle, because he just didn't put in the body of work.

 

You're saying Pacquiao is a greater 140 fighter than Aaron Pryor?