Pacman is a spent force even close to being shot.. no great speed or work rate now...

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  1. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Pac is one of the best fighters fighting today. He sure has Void afraid of him..................
     
  2. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Still doesn't alter the points made.

    Pac did make Tim look amateurish. Wild, missing swings and lurching around.

    And Timmy is (was) the p4p #3.
     
  3. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    Pacquiao looked better tonight than he has in the last 3 years.

    He's no doubt not the same as he was prior to 2011, but still one of the sport's best fighters.
     
  4. kirk

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    People just don't want to see whats in front of their eyes, for many reasons.

    Pac has been declining since the Margarito fight.
     
  5. retriever

    retriever Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You forgot Pac's Anklebreaker move.:D
     
  6. Kid Cincinnati

    Kid Cincinnati GOOD BOY NATION Full Member

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    Considering his age, this fight was one of the best wins of his career.

    Going into this fight he was either going to show his age and get outboxed by the undefeated prime no. 2 rated welterweight in the world, or he was going to show why he's an ATG. He did the latter.
     
  7. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Pacman is slowing down, I thought Bradley fought a terrible fight. I do think if Bradley fought with his speed and didn't try to knock out Manny he would have won. Terrible fightplan for Bradley, if he even had one.
     
  8. this_and_that

    this_and_that Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And tonight it showed even greater.

    I honestly thought Pac was gunshy on several occasions, that I was waiting for a counter jab, right hook or lead left that somehow never got thrown.
    It could be because Bradley was countering him pretty well too and that monster right that Bradley landed flush on his face made Pac cautious, but this version of Pac is too far away from the relentless wrecking machine that dismantled Hatton and Cotto.

    I think I saw Pac obviously declining in:

    Pac vs Margarito
    Pac vs Bradley 1
    and tonight.

    In between there wasn't much obvious decline but it was a steady decline nonetheless.
     
  9. travolt

    travolt Trolling the trolls Full Member

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    Bradley clearly got hurt after the fifth, but Pac should receive props for forcing Tim to spend more energy and athleticism to stay in the fight than he normally would, each time they faced each other.

    Having said that , there wasn't much left to Pac's game, besides his straight right.

    Bradley was there to be kod; instead, he stood outside , ate a few counters and did just enough to win each rd.
    I don't see how he could beat PBF with such a low volume outpout.

    Pac should consider retirement, he has nothing left to prove.
     
  10. Thread Stealer

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    I think it's pretty obvious that Pacquiao has declined since the end of 2010. Pacquiao actually looked better than he had in awhile against Marquez....then he got knocked silly.

    Pacquiao has had to adapt, he's not gonna have the same crazy work rate, stamina, and speed at this stage. He has had a lot of tough fights and wear and tear on his body. It happens, athletes have to adjust as they age. He's never been a defensive whiz but he avoided a lot of shots in the exchanges well. He had all sorts of problems tagging Bradley clean, Bradley was using some good upper body movement.
     
  11. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    comparing Bradley to Hatton?:patsch you clearly DKSAB
     
  12. Darni187

    Darni187 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :deal
     
  13. Dunks

    Dunks Absolute Grandmaster Full Member

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    Pacquiao-Marquez 5 next?:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  14. maciek4

    maciek4 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly. Floyd hasn't looked great against Miguel Cotto who connected with many punches on him and bloodied him but his last performance against Alvarez was very impressive and he is benefiting from it now as you are only as good as your last fight.
     
  15. make_the_weight

    make_the_weight Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's the thing, he looked **** relative to his prime, but beat a top WW P4P in his (pacman's) decline

    Bradley is too underrated here it's unbelievable

    The guy has some skill, work ethic, athleticism, a two weight world champ, had a hard long list of good opponents since beating Witter, he has heart, determination and a decent chin. In addition to this, he has underrated power. People think he hits too soft, but he earned the respect of Provo, manny and JMM In 3 consecutive fights. He is awkward to fight, and has never been KO'ed.
    And Pac beat him twice. (Once unofficially)