Pacman is vulnerable to what type of punch? Does Floyd have this?

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  1. David_TheMan

    David_TheMan ESB Sage Full Member

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    Since when was Hatton a defensive fighter who fought the same from Round 1 to Round 12?
     
  2. Boxing Fanatic

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    Pac is faster than Mayweather. That will be a key for Pac. But, Mayweather's d is better. Floyd is obviously bigger. Manny won't back from any challenge. But, I still think Floyd would beat him because he is a smart fighter, and stronger than Pac.
     
  3. mangler

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    Any lefty can eat str8 right leads if the fighter throwin it has fast hands. PBF does. Pac can be countered when he's in all aggressive mode also. PBF is bigger and stronger as well. I think he'd stop Pac.
     
  4. mikeatris

    mikeatris SUPREME MATHEMATICS Full Member

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    That will not work. Remember Pac has great head movement and moves laterally in both directions. Plus his speed will make it difficult for Floyd to land flush. Floyd will have to jab his way to a right hand lead down the pipe every now and then. That is the only way I see it but that will still be tough because of Pac unorthodox style and movement.
     
  5. Nestea

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    Whats the relevance of that in the thing you quoted?
     
  6. mikeatris

    mikeatris SUPREME MATHEMATICS Full Member

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    Floyd is not stronger nor faster and he will not stop Pac because he has no power or aggression. The only way for him to win is to lead left and right all night and run.
     
  7. K0NPHL1C7

    K0NPHL1C7 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Floyd is stronger, faster, more technicly sound and has a better defense.

    Pacman is more of a risk taker.
     
  8. mikeatris

    mikeatris SUPREME MATHEMATICS Full Member

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    Roy against Richard Hall. Roy leads with his left or right would **** all over Floyd's. Roy leads were way faster and to prove how fast they were Floyd throws leads in a conventional stand, while Roy was throwing his from his waist with his hands down and it is still faster. Man although he fought a lot of bums, Roy was one of the best offensive weapons I have ever saw.
     
  9. mikeatris

    mikeatris SUPREME MATHEMATICS Full Member

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    Floyd is not faster. He has no power @ 47 while Pac is stopping people much bigger than he is. Faster no. Manny has natural hand speed, Floyd does not. Floyd has hand speed don't get me wrong but he was not the fastest puncher when he was around. Natural hand speed is hand speed that is thrown when your feet are planted, not moving. Hardly no one in boxing have natural hand speed. Floyd has hand speed but not natural. A lot of his handspeed comes from lateral movement and that makes your punches look a lot faster than they actually are. There are about 3 people I can think of that has natural hand speed and they are Manny, Berto and Judah. More technically sound we will have to see in July. Remember he has been inactive for 18 months. Better defense I will give him that though.
     
  10. sthomas

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    Mayweather's best weapon to neutralize Pac. will be his left jab to the body. Hardly anyone does this anymore and Floyd's a master at it
     
  11. puga_ni_nana

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    this would look funny. a naturally bigger guy who will not engage a smaller guy. yeah i know that it's his style, but to do this to someone like pac or jmm is a little hilarious.
     
  12. Johnnyblaze

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    If you're fast enough, you can take a step back when he throws his left and counter with your own straight right to the head or body. JMM did this to him plenty of times in bith their fights.
     
  13. K0NPHL1C7

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    I happen to disagree. I think Pac's speed is mainly derivitive of the volume of punches, rather than actual handspeed. For instance if it were a matter of snapping out a jab or a straight punch, I'd put my money on Mayweather 10/10 times.

    Now if you're talking throwing 10 punches at a time, ya Pac is probably faster because he actually does it. Mayweather doesn't throw shots that might not land, that's the difference.
     
  14. David_TheMan

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    Learn to read and you would see what the relevance was.
     
  15. mikeatris

    mikeatris SUPREME MATHEMATICS Full Member

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    Different scenario and Pac is turning into a whole different fighter. Like I said before, we just need to wait until July with predictions and scenarios. I do not know who will win, but I do know that Pac is evolving into a beast with multiple ways to beat people. I do not know about a guy is has not boxed in almost 18 months, but we will see some ring rust when he do box in July. It might be minor, it might be major. He might need another tune-up after Marquez to get the cobwebs off. But to say he can beat Pac now when he is on a 17 month hiatus is just crazy.