Pacman is wrong and losing the publicity battle

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by BewareofDawg, Dec 29, 2009.


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  1. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Mayweather/Golden Boy Statement:

    "Let the record be clear: Manny Pacquiao and his promoter Bob Arum are threatening to walk away from the largest fight in history. The fact is that random blood and urine testing was one of the many deal points and was listed along with the others, such as the financial split, the weight, financial penalty for being overweight, the appointment of the foreign sales agent, the production of the marketing assets, the gloves and many more. Team Mayweather made major concessions in many of these areas and we were optimistic that Team Pacquiao would do the same as it related to the request for random blood and urine testing, which Floyd Mayweather agreed to immediately.
    It is disappointing for us to see that the benefits of blood testing and the fact that many different substances and procedures can only be detected by blood testing, are still not fully understood by all.
    Their “take it or leave it” approach where blood testing would stop 30 days prior to the fight unless the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC) approved differently is another indication that they may not want this fight. Pacquiao’s position (and as stated on his website) is. “The truth is taking blood out of my body does not seem natural to me and mentally I feel it will weaken me if blood is taken from me just days before the fight” or he is “afraid of needles” and does not feel comfortable with blood being taken closer than 30 days before the fight is another interesting point. The fact is that he did have blood taken just 14 days prior to his fight with Ricky Hatton, an event which was documented on HBO’s 24/7 reality show.
    Also when told that Pacquiao feels that the United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) is an agent of Golden Boy Promotions-which is in and of itself a ridiculous accusation-we moved swiftly and made yet another concession by stating that we would be perfectly fine to retain another agency which would do the random urine and blood tests and jointly agree on a reasonable cutoff prior to the fight but which would still maintain the integrity of the results. Let it be clear that this procedure was declined by Pacquiao as was the proposal to bring in an independent mediator such as Sen. John McCain, a suggestion that was in fact embraced by Bob Arum, but also declined by Manny Pacquiao.
    Let it be very clear that nobody from Team Mayweather or Golden Boy Promotions is accusing Pacquiao of anything. But the reality seems to be that for whatever reason Pacquiao does not want to participate in random blood testing, which has already been deemed a harmless procedure that many current athletes are subjected to prior to and during competition.
    Team Mayweather and Golden Boy Promotions is still open to the earlier discussions of having both parties work out a mutually agreeable understanding of the testing, which would be conducted by a mutually agreed upon agency.
    In closing Floyd Mayweather is one of the most decorated athletes boxing has ever seen and he is anxious to make this fight happen for all of the fans and sports enthusiasts that are asking for this fight to happen too. As you might have noticed Floyd has been silently watching and patiently waiting for the final details of the fight to get worked out. As Floyd has already stated he does not have a problem with the random procedure and will be under the same requirements as Pacquiao, it is simply hard for him to understand why there is reluctance on Pacquiao’s part to agree to do the same."
     
    BewareofDawg, Dec 29, 2009
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  2. MickeyBlueEyess

    MickeyBlueEyess Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And the *******s will still try and blame Floyd :deal

    Pac is making himself look like a coward and needs to sort himself out or tarnish his legacy forever.
     
    MickeyBlueEyess, Dec 29, 2009
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  3. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Leave Pacquiao to riun his legacy then. He's a grown man, he can live by his decisions.
     
    Gneus7, Dec 29, 2009
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  4. bill poster

    bill poster Guest

    No, its just that whoever is doing Pac's PR are doing a terrible job. Less is more, stick to the point etc
     
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  5. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Juiceman is really looking bad. The general public won't side with anyone who refuses a random drug test that are commonplace in today's workplace . It's really just common sense anyone who won't submit to a drug test has something to hide especially when considering that a 40 million dollar payday is at stake as well.:deal
     
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  6. Ricky369

    Ricky369 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Again, Not a PAcquiao fan and I still think Cotto could have win that fight with the proper training and strategy. But Manny is not wrong in this. He has never refused testing by the comissions, otherwise he wouldn't have a license. He is only refusing to fall for Floyd M?ayweather bull****. Floyd can't be saying when a boxer will be tested. Who the **** does he think he is??? The owner of the sport??? He needs to STFU. And YES! the Mayweather's and DLH promotions BOTH accussed Manny of using PED's. WHATIS FLOYD COME UP WITH NEXT?? IS HE GOING TO CHANGE HIS NAME TO: FLOYD "WORLD BOXING REGULATOR" MAYWEATHER?????
     
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  7. Andrew671

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    The evidence is there for everyone to see:

    a. Manny refuses to take a random blood tests 30 days prior to the fight exactly when one would take steroids

    b. he claims it weakens him, yet had no problems taking a test 14 days prior to Ricky Hatton

    c. if you watch his early fights, say against JMMI or Morales I he was actually less explosive at the lower weight classes and had trouble putting his opponent down and most of his fights. Even against mediocre opponents, like Agapito Sánchez prior to 2006 he struggled. Now he is not only explosive he also runs through bigger opponents and PUTS THEM DOWN like they're nothing.
    If you watch the change it is dramatic. I challenge anyone to watch Pac before 2003 and not see the dramatic difference.


    THe natural conclusion: Pac is hiding something, and the truth will come out eventually. The question is how badly will it affect Manny's legacy?
     
    Andrew671, Dec 29, 2009
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  8. crimson

    crimson Boxing Addict banned

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    Your argument to defend Floyd is by quoting a press release from Golden Boy????

    WTF???
     
    crimson, Dec 29, 2009
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  9. Crax Sellerman

    Crax Sellerman Guest

    Urine testing is better than blood testing. The only reason anybody ever uses blood testing is because it's far cheaper. Don't allow yourselves to be brainwashed.
     
    Crax Sellerman, Dec 29, 2009
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  10. Silent_Assassin

    Silent_Assassin Lightning Full Member

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    hey dumbass thats why FMJ's camp and GBP are try to get the pac's camp to random testing and its pac's camp who is trying to dictate when the test are administered but that defeats the whole purpose of random rite????
     
    Silent_Assassin, Dec 29, 2009
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  11. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    If you're not being sarcastic you should log off.
     
    Pimp C, Dec 29, 2009
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  12. HitmanHatton

    HitmanHatton Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The GBP statement is full of facts you cant dispute though!!!
     
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  13. Silent_Assassin

    Silent_Assassin Lightning Full Member

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    wrong blood testing is bye far more superior that urine testing
     
    Silent_Assassin, Dec 29, 2009
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  14. Crax Sellerman

    Crax Sellerman Guest

    Conjecture, not evidence.

    More conjecture. How do you know he couldn't have been better against Hatton had he not given blood?

    Utterly false. Pacquiao was knocking people out far quicker at lower weights.

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    Your logic is not only invalid but based upon false premises.
     
    Crax Sellerman, Dec 29, 2009
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  15. puga_ni_nana

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