Pacman is wrong and losing the publicity battle

Based upon what?

 

Based upon truth?

http://mmajunkie.com/news/16045/ask-the-doc-with-steroid-and-hgh-testing-is-blood-or-urine-best.mma

But hair test are better

 

Your truth is what, Richard Schaefer's "expert" opinion? Mine is based in science. Educate yourself:

http://www.antidopingresearch.org/BeyondSportsDopingHeadlines.pdf

Testing urine is better than testing blood for most prohibited substances (small molecules, molecular weight less than ~800 atomic mass units). Urine collection is noninvasive and yields a large volume of sample, with higher drug concentrations than in blood and with far fewer cells and proteins to complicate extraction.

 

wise guy they actually have pills that can flush your urine to make it seem clean while at the same time the substance is still in your system

 

A urine test is easier to cheat.

 

Log off man you clearly don't have a clue. Urine testing is old school technology. Blood and hair are both more thorough than urine.

 

true.

 

I posted the post below on another thread, but I'm going to put it here (don't know if I can or should remove it from the other thread), because this is a more appropriate thread. This is exactly my point. There's zero evidence that Pacquiao is now or has been in the past on PEDs, and yet the boxing public's perception is that if he doesn't agree to Floyd's unprecedented demands then that is confirmation of cheating.

I got to admit, Golden Boy is taking Arum and his people to school on this one. If I were Arum, I would be looking into Floyd's past to see what, if any, dirt I can find. If they are so sure that Pacquiao is on PEDs, maybe it's because they have intimate knowledge about that stuff. They can see things we don't. Maybe Floyd is not on anything now, but who can say that he wasn't on something at some point in the past? Look at Mosely's cautionary tale. I mean, prior to the BALCO scandal, PEDs were not a big issue in Baseball and other big-time regulated sports (except Olympics), let alone in the Wild Wild West that is the pro-boxing scene. Maybe Floyd saw what happened to Mosely and decided to cut his losses. Mosely's admission came during the whole BALCO mess in 2007. By then Floyd was already fighting at 147. Maybe he decided to stop using PEDs, and also to not fight any legitimate 147ers in their prime. Maybe he said, I don't need any PEDs for the likes of old DLH, Hatton and Marquez. You know, just go on with the business of being Money Mayweather, and talk about everything except Cotto, Mosely, Margarito, Clottey, etc.

Are these unfounded speculations on my part? Sure. But how is that any different from what Floyd and Golden Boy are doing?

Arum has got to hit back with something, whether substantiate it or not. After all, Floyd and Golden Boy's accusations have zero substance behind them. They're just saying, we don't believe that it's possible for a boxer to achieve what you've achieved, so we want you to change your training routine to acomodate random blood testing, even before the fight, and if you don't accept our demands it means that you're a cheater and we won't fight you. That's hard ball public relations right there, folks!


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"I'll tell you what folks. If Pacquiao is clean, then this has got to be one of the biggest and most scandalous--if not THE biggest and most scandalous--case of character assasination in the history of pro-sports!

I don't remember any discussion (not at any remotely significant level, in any event) about Pacquiao being on PEDs prior to Mayweather Sr.'s purely speculative and unfounded comments for the Hatton fight. Fast forward, what 6 mos??, and it's almost a generally conceded notion that Pacquiao has been or may have been on some form of PEDs at some point in his career, which has actually lended some legitimacy to Floyd's drug testing demands.

I mean, I don't have any reason to suspect that Pacquiao is on PEDs, and yet I started this email with the phrase "If Pacquiao is clean..." That's where we're at right now. If Pacquiao doesn't do the tests and the fight falls through, then a cloud will fall upon him, maybe for the rest of his career. It's like a little girl accusing her dad of molestation, spurred along by her enbittered mother's resentment for her ex-husband. A man will almost never live down that sort of accusation, even after being technically provent not guilty. Once the finger is pointed, it's like the scarlett letter. Tag, you're it!

In turn, Floyd will be celebrated and vindicated for ducking yet another legitimate opponent at 147. This has got to be the biggest smoke and mirrors act in pro-sports' history!"

 

At the Olympics, blood is collected, but not as often as urine. For example, at the 2004 Athens Olympics, the laboratory received 2926 urine samples and 691 blood samples.

Explain this?

 

Just wanted to clarify something, when I say that PEDs weren't a big deal in Baseball prior to the BALCO mess, I mean prior to the early leakage of that investigation's findings, not prior to Mosely's testimony in 2007. Baseball instituted PED testing in 2004 if memory serves me, but at that point there wasn't any real hard evidence of the extent to which PED's permeated the sport. Even when Canseco came out with his book in 2005, people didn't really believe him. It wasn't until the BALCO scandal hit the fan that we all realized that these weren't isolated incidents, but a whole generation of players whose stats would forever be tainted.

As far as pro-football is concerned, I'm not really familiar with the testing they do, but I think PED use is widely accepted in the NFL, regardless of what testing they say they use for window dressing's sake.