Pacman keys to victory!!!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Karceno, Aug 25, 2010.


  1. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    Height is a stupid argument, Paul Williams is the same height as a lot of HW's.
     
  2. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    C'mon bro....since moving UP! Let's keep it real and lets have a really SOLID PERSPECTIVE. Manny has been MOVING up with one or maybe 2 fights at any weight so he's actually fighting LESS now than he was before ...being more active, having more fights at the lower weghts he still have a strong KO percentage!

    Its when he faced JMM that his KO percentage DIPPED! And that's what you are talking about....He also had a distance fight with EM and MAB, but BELOW 126....Check Manny's KO percentage! It's better than it is at 147 having only 3 fights at that weight.

    At 135 his KO percentage was 100% b/c he had one fight that ended early. Perspective will shine a whole new light on any situation and will give you a much clearer picture.
     
  3. Karceno

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    your stuck on neutral, what about after that i said i gave him his probs for that fight. what about after that? he got a gift against marquez, lost to morales, then we know what happen after that
     
  4. donutman

    donutman Member Full Member

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    I don't care what anyone says! When you TKO David Diaz, make Oscar at his natural weight of 145 quit on his stool, and the TKO Cotto after he dominated The Master of Defense, Clottey, you are definitely taking something! Nobody TKOs the great David Diaz.

    That means you're a waste of life.
     
  5. totsboy

    totsboy Active Member Full Member

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    you just say stupid because you cant argue..you idiot
     
  6. Karceno

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    because he wasnt fight pacman yrs ago! Stupid this test is for his roid taking, alex ariza special shake drinking, it only an ulcer,lie telling,cheating azz
     
  7. Karceno

    Karceno Guest

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMepzH9QiJQ[/ame]
    keep talking:lol:
     
  8. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    No, I say stupid because height shouldnt have anything to do with it, you call me an idiot but your argument is that because someone is the same height as another fighter they can dominate their weight-class. Paul Williams is nearly the same height as David Haye, so according to you he can become one of the HW champions.









    You idiot.
     
  9. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    But he said he wants to use the testing for all his fights, so, again, why did he all of a sudden want it when he was going to fight Pacquiao and not his previous fights?
     
  10. donutman

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    That means you have the punching power of 6yr old Cashflow Floyd Diaz. And I don't catch your drift because there is no power behind it. :lol:
     
  11. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nah....you just are having a hard time ACCEPTING simple common sense b/c it's not supporting your stance. So calling my logic FLAWED is just an easy way to avoid accepting the truth.

    If I call you a ******, yet I don't know you and I don't have any evidence I'm sure that wouldnt set too well with you if I spread those rumors throughout your community. Then after doing that work I demanded that you take a lie detector test with a specialist I WANTED I'm sure you would tell me to go **** off.

    To say FLOYD CAN'T PROVE his ACCUSATIONS TRUE b/c Manny won't agree to the test is FLAWED kid!:rofl It's damn near a ******ed concept b/c when you put some **** like that out there about anther man you best have evidence and proof to support it.

    You don't put something that damaging out there with out having the ability to back it up and then come up with your own demands to some how validate your baseless accusations.

    That's some BACKWARDS type **** right there.

    Floyd KO'd guys bigger than him...he's done that moving up in weight. Doens't happen often but Floyd has problems with his hands and he isn't a power puncher. So you are trying to compare a grape fruit with lobster! you won't get a reasonable outcome doing things that way.

    ALL PRO BOXERS HAVE TO TAKE DRUG TESTS! including Manny and that's the way it's been.

    At the lower weights PAC was CONSISTANT...Fighting more....and more often. As he moved up he has fought LESS so therefore for the fights he had his KO percentage is great.

    At 135 his KO percentage was 100%....which is better than his KO percentage at 147 which is about 66%.

    Some druge can't be detected....that's common knowledge so knowing that, the Demands taht Floyd brought to the table makes even LESS sense. It's not even TRUE OLYMPIC style testing. It's a conformed by product of WADA's protocol which is already flawed as it is.

    Sure it's better but being better doesn't prove anything.

    To say Hagler isn't relevant in boxing is like saying Robinson was over hyped. You don't have to agree but his comments deserve respect giving where and who it's coming from.
     
  12. PH|LLA

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    its neither. He is a ******.

    Pac had like 4 KO's in his first 12 or 13 fights and he was just a child back then. That's when his power increased, not later in his career.

    Look at Pac's KO ratio at 122, and compare that to his KO ratio since he moved up to 130.
     
  13. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    Maybe it is all that masturbating over j ustin bieber.

    his legs are shot = no power.:deal
     
  14. totsboy

    totsboy Active Member Full Member

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    yes if he puts on the muscle..

    height matters because theres perfect weight for every height..you can be malnourished if youre 6'6 fighter fighting in a welter division and youll be fat if you are 5'5 fighter fighting in the hw division..thats why pac is not moving up anymore because he already reached the weight limit for his height..

    now whos idiot you ****ing idiot
     
  15. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm on cruise control homie.....I don't need to be all amped up and frantic to post. You say it was a gift that Manny won and I respect that. Some feel that way. I don't agree. Just like many felt JLC beat Floyd the first go round. I don't agree but I respect their opinions b/c it was a CLOSE fight. But i won't be calling ANY close competitive fight a "gift".

    A gift is what JMM got against PAC the first time...with the draw. And then avoiding clearing up the contraversy to fight Chris John in Indonesia where he lost his title. And he did lose to EM. I gave EM major props for that. He won fair and square but Manny avenged that loss 2 times over in more dominating fashion.