Pacquaio has overrated footwork

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Koncz stating clearly that Manny would not accept full random testing, and that's why the second negotiation fell through?

Pacquiao's been exposed as a liar by his own manager.

 

I thought Floyd and his posse said that there was no second negotiations? Oh no, that's right - Ross Greenberg came out and said there was, exposing Mayweather as a liar in the process . . .

 

Pacquiao has overrated everything.

I've never seen him in the ring with an opponent with good/great skills and footwork and not look a bit exposed at times.

Let's remember, all he's faced since Marquez exposed all of his weaknesses, are a lot of opponents who are even more limited than he is.


You watch the guy sparring with Khan, and not getting near the guy, and it's pretty obvious that he's a great fighter in with another brawler. Put him in with a classy opponent and he's plain average.

Pacquiao's great as long as his opponent is easy to hit, and doesn't have anything on the counter.

Put him in with a skilled guy, different story. Pacquiao would struggle to beat someone like Amir Khan or Tim Bradley in my opinion.

No fighter who's as easy to hit as he is, has any footwork. Never mind good footwork.

He just gets protected by guys who have the skills to expose it

 

Floyd's people said all along that there were initial talks, but they fell through very quickly, as it became obvious that Pacquiao wasn't going to accept the testing demands.

They said that days after the fight fell through.

Turns out it's 100%. Pacquiao's own manager said the same.

The lesson being, Pacquiao talks a ton of crap to the media. Says one thing to Pinoy TV, another in negotiations

 

Pacmans footwork wont even be needed against Marga, the speed and power will quickly turn 'Tony' into a bloody pulp

 

Actually the OP isn't completely wrong, just that he may not have noticed the changes Pac have made since his fights with guys like Morales and Marquez. Pac used to back straight up and does go off balance at times, but Pac and Freddy Roach made a lot of adjustments and fine tuning to correct those flaws. Pac now circles a lot and uses his angles pretty impressively, he doesn't have the best defense overall but it has nothing to do with his footwork.

 

his footwork isnt great but he has fast feet, so while not greatly coordinated his feet are still fast and enough to get out of danger and sneak in

 

People often mistake fast feet for good footwork. Pac doesn't have good footwork he has fast feet there's a difference. He can't cut off the ring to save his life is often off balanced when he throws his shots which leaves himself wide open that's not good footwork. It works for him but his footwork isn't good. Anyone who says Pac has great footwork doesn't know the definition of the word as it relates to boxing.:deal

 

they said this after greenburg already made his statement.

but before greenburg spoke, mayweather's ppl categorically said that there were no negotiations at all the second time around. that's why greenburg was compelled to go public and said that there were in fact actual negotiations going on and he tried to mediate between the two parties. greenburg's statements therefore proved that mayweather and his people were lying and that's why they released that subsequent statement in an effort to save face. still doesn't change the fact that they lied.

 

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Good effective unorthodox footwork and quick feet, though hes no Ebihara or Chang.

 

What I think it is, is that his footwork is okay when he is doing something he wants to do, but he can look uncomfortable when forced to do something he does not want to do, which you might say, is why Margo's pressure is going to give him problems, but you also have to be mindful that Pac is a sharp shooter with extremely fast feet, which is why so many aggression fighters have not been able to pin him down, apply pressure, and stay upright, now you might say, well Margo has a better chin, I agree, but he will still be liable to getting hit with punches he might not see, and we know what kind of effects those punches have.

The best way to beat Pac IMO, is to stabilize his in and out motion with a jab, but Margarito does not throw the jab well enough, he does not get his feet into position when throwing it imo, which wont help his cause when throwing the jab, if he decides to throw it.


Also, I doubt Roach will want Pac to allow Margarito to come foward, because Margarito has a habit of building a momentum of pressure when you let him come foward, he gets in his groove and can become relentless, that is why I think Roach will tell Pac to keep him in centre ring, cause in the middle of the ring his speed advantage will show up big time. I also think you can shut someone like Margarito down somewhat by keeping him playing defense, which is why I think Pac will keep him in the centre, put combo's together upstairs, bang the body when he shells up to protect himself, but keep turning him after he gets off, infact I think Margarito could struggle big time with the speed disparity in the middle of the ring.

I wouldn't say it sucks, he is pretty good on the backfoot at getting off, then pivoting away, plus, I think what you missing out is, that Pac's feet are extremely quick, they often get him out of bad position because of they are so quick, which might be why he outfoxes pressure fighters who perceive him not to have that good a footwork.

Aren't you talking about his use of angles on the offense there? also, why do you think Cotto said in his interview, that the thing that troubled him the most against Pac, was the angles he attacked from? maybe he could of used the angles more effectively against Clottey's style, but generally speaking, his use of angles is not too bad.

Footspeed is the key.

Clottey actually has a terrific lead right hand, watch the fight with Judah again, you will see exactly what im referring to, also, one of the reasons Pac got hit with that punch, gets hit by jabs from time to time, is because he has no glove defense, he only tries to slip punches, rarely does he block them, which is why Clottey was able to sneak that lead right in so much, that said, Margarito does not have that kinda of punch in his arsenal imo, not a straight, accurate one like Clottey anyway.

Its okay moving your head, if your flawed technically, balance wise, which Margarito is, then your always going to be open defensively, plus, whilst Margarito is moving his head, playing defense as he rolls foward, he wont be closing the distance as quickly, which will allow Pac more time and space to set up, move.

 

every time someone says something negative about pacquiao u ****ing *******s jump in talking about mayweather. who the **** mentioned mayweather? they arent the only two boxers in the world. if u talk about one u arent necessarily talking about the other. u *******s are so ****ing gay. i cant stand u ***gots. and i cant stand filipino commentators.