Pacquaio is about......

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by ringsider, Jul 21, 2009.


  1. FlatNose

    FlatNose Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cotto doesn't seem to be the same since Margarito, and Pac has done nothing but improve. Pac will win going away, probably stoppage around the 8th.
     
  2. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This fight may become a real issue for cotto in the later round where cotto has been know to lose steam evan at 147 . With Cotto coming down in weight Pac speed may cause problems for him in the late rounds, when he may start to feel the effect of the weight loss.

    No doubt cotto know how to deal with speed and south paws, Im not so sure he can deal with speed, the south paw stance and the effect of weight loss all at the same time.
     
  3. mgdb26

    mgdb26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cotto's not dirty so don't go there, but you do make a good point in that it would be in Cotto's best interest to start clinching. That is the best way for him to optimize his size and strength advantage.
     
  4. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    I see the ref stoping the fight because Cotto just laid on the ropes and took combo after combo.
     
  5. Godfather

    Godfather I put the G in God Full Member

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    I think the deciding factor will be Freddie Roach. Pac to win by very late TKO or close decision

    This fight will test Pac's chin and body more than any other, but Roach will already have a solid gameplan
     
  6. rjamesd1

    rjamesd1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    COTTO will be TKO'd while backpedalling like HATTON in his second knockdown. PAC TKO 5! :hat
     
  7. VARG

    VARG Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Many people like to bring this up, but forget his eye was cut and swollen so he really couldn't see.

    And I'm sure like most...who the **** throws THAT many uppercuts in a row? :huh It sounds like an absurd question, but honestly...anyone who's boxed before knows that's a bit odd. I'm sure Cotto was waiting for a change in offense. The same punch being thrown (it was 3 times) was too odd. But overall I'm sure he just couldn't see or move much anymore at that point in the fight.
     
  8. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Some people are predicting Cotto might get stopped on cuts. I don't see it this way. I believe Pacquiao can land sharp enough blows to put Cotto down for the count. Cotto hasn't really imposed himself through body punching lately, and that would be my way to see him win. So, overall, I see Pacquiao taking this fight.
     
  9. VARG

    VARG Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cotto said that, but any REAL Cotto observer can see that Cotto clinches when he wants to and does so in and under the right circumstances. He simply doesnt HOLD. He usually clinches and circles his opponent.

    Cotto usually tries to go for the clinch when he's on the ropes. He'll clinch and circle around, while his opponent is now on the ropes. He did against Margo AND Clottey. He attempted more times with Clottey, but it didn't come out pretty because Clottey held Cotto's arm resulting in the blow to the back of the head.

    People take that quote too seriously. I'm sure Cotto just meant, clinching won't be the bread and butter of his gameplan like say Berto, Mosley or B-Hop has been known for doing. But when Cotto is hurt, he clinches. When Cotto is stuck on the ropes, he either circles around or clinches and turns his opponent.
     
  10. VARG

    VARG Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The only time Cotto hasn't gone to the body in his recent fights was against Margo. He already stated that he couldn't when he tried to...Thanks to Margo's brilliant use of tucking his elbows in and throwing uppercuts when Cotto attempted to anyway.

    But he KD Jennings with a left to the body and if you saw the Compuzone stats of the Clottey fight, you'll see it was a nice mix of both head and body shots.

    This myth that Cotto doesn't go to the body anymore is ****in' funny man.
     
  11. Realspitts

    Realspitts Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i wouldnt be surprised. all it takes is 1 punch from cotto to change the fight and ultimately stop the pacman. and with cottos heart i dont see manny stopping him within 6. IMO this is a pick em fight. i expect cotto to try and bulldoze manny with relenteless attacks downstairs and using his size to the upmost advantage.
     
  12. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    :patsch
     
  13. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    It's these punches that opened up the cuts and busted Cotto's nose, he just lacked decent enough to defense to avoid them and was busted open early. I do believe that Margarito had his gloves loaded in that fight, Cotto has been hit with similar punches by many others and no way was he busted open this bad and this early, who else was Margarito able to do that to?, anyone he did something similar to and so early in a fight?.

    Still the point is Margarito was able to land at will and in combinations with VERY predictable extremely slow punches. Cotto tends to lean down welcoming uppercuts in full force and it doesn't look like he will stop doing that, he has been doing it all his career, too late to change now.

    Cotto can't handle aggression, what he will get in this fight is a mixture of aggression, defense/movement, punches in combinations, serious power and insane stamina. Pacquiao doesn't stand in one place and Cotto can't land his own if you don't stand in one place and constantly move. He will constantly jump in with punches and out and can do it all night. If you have poor defense against someone in Pacquiao's class of fighting you're in for an ass whopping you will never forget. Morales, Barrera, Hatton, DLH and many others are living witnesses and Cotto's punch resistance isn't good enough at all and it's only worse when 90% of these punches are extremely powerful fast ones he won't see coming.
     
  14. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    What does that mean?, anything wrong I said there or you want me to upload the Margarito fight for you?

    Cotto has been hit freely by Mosley, Abdulaev, Maussa, Torres, Judah, Corley, Margarito, Clottey, Malignaggi and hurt/stunned/rocked by almost all of them.
     
  15. Bazooka

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    He usally weighs in at 146 So I doubt 145 will hurt him he has plenty of time to take that off the right way, one pound isnt nothing. its not like Oscar comming down from 154 and weighing 145 at the weigh in when he fought Manny that is a huge difference in weight there, one pound wont effect him.

    Cotto does lose steam and I agree with you there, but So does Manny, and Manny has fallen asleep in the drivers seats in both Marquez fights, another sound counterpuncher who can box.

    I see this fight as being the truth teller in regards to just how high Manny can climb I dont see him winning here not a hate thing I just think that the 145 agreed weight is too close to where Cotto is best at.