Pacquaio = The Glory of a COWARD: Accepting the REWARD, Declining the RISK!!

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  1. cainne

    cainne Noli Mi Tangere Full Member

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    The real threat to this fight is...

    IF MANNY WILL DOMINATE MARGO OR EVEN KTFO OF HIM
    IT WILL JUST FUEL MORE THE PED ISSUE AND WE WILL NEVER SEE THE FIGHT WE ALL WANT TO see.

    If Floyd is just on vacation now after the fight not even a footprint of him you will able to find.(well...duck can fly don't they.)
     
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  2. pugilistspecialist

    pugilistspecialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    For you that replied No, consider if a fighter that wasnt as likiable and as popular as Manny did this, then they Manny supporters would cry foul play....imagine if Mayweather, Hatton, or any other top fighter did this....this is a shame and a disgrace to the sport.....you have to fight at the weight limit for a belt not a catchweight:patsch:patsch
     
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  3. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    Weight Class

    Updated
    Heavyweight Division – 200+ lbs April 2010
    Cruiserweight Division – 175-200 lbs March 2010
    Light Heavyweight Division – 168-175 lbs August 2010
    Super Middleweight Division – 160-168 lbs June 2010
    Middleweight Division – 154-160 lbs August 2010
    Junior Middleweight Division – 147-154 lbs August 2010
    Welterweight Division – 140-147 lbs May 2010
    Junior Welterweight Division – 135-140 lbs August 2010
    Lightweight Division – 130-135 lbs August 2010
    Super Featherweight Division – 126-130 lbs May 2010
    Featherweight Division – 122-126 lbs August 2010
    Super Bantamweight Division – 118-122 lbs May 2010
    Bantamweight Division – 115-118 lbs May 2010
    Super Flyweight Division – 112-115 lbs March 2010
    Flyweight Division – 108-112 lbs March 2010
    Junior Flyweight Division – 105-108 lbs March 2010
    Minimum Weight Division – 105 lbs and under March 2010

    they are fighting within the limit.
     
    Devildoc, Sep 1, 2010
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  4. Horus

    Horus Member Full Member

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    u cant be fuccking serious :cool:
     
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  5. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :rofl over dramatic would be an understatement... Relax kid. Manny is a fighter and he's actually fighting so what the problem is?:huh Manny's fight at Jr MW is a catch weight and it's not gonna do much for his already stellar legacy but he's moving up YET AGAIN and he has to test the waters. Next fight will be at 154 if he decides to stay at that weight like he did at 147.

    To call manny a COWARD is just special....:lol: For real kid? A coward?:think Coming from you I'm guessing you must be a ****ing elite member of a special forces unit or a decorated war hero.:rofl
     
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  6. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    You are full of double standards and contradictions.
     
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  7. FinalBELL

    FinalBELL Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Okay, lets say these figures are correct. Either way your point is not valid. Because what many are failing to see is that Pac and his promotional team are holding these fighters to a contract stating they must weigh in no more than the agreed upon contracted weight. :deal

    For example: if junior middle is 147-154, than Margo should be allowed to way up to the 154 limit if he wishes. Not 151. So call it what you want, but it is not within the normal limits of the established weight divisions.

    Real easy to see, if you want to see it?
     
    FinalBELL, Sep 1, 2010
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  8. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Really? How so? With what you bolded your statement isn't supported. I never had any problems with catch weights in the past...nor do I have one now. I wouldn't mind it at 154 but I'm not the one moving up to to an 8th division to face a bigger man either. MANY greats who moved up in weight in the past have done so. Leonard and DLH along with a long list of other greats have catch weights on their resumes. What the problem is?
     
    charlievint, Sep 1, 2010
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  9. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    What I posted is what boxing commissions go for. There's really no argument. If 147-154 is considered jr. middleweight then that is that.

    Yes Margarito can say he wants the fight at 154 and not 151 but the thing is, that's what both camps negotiated. It's still within the limits.

    Both are fighting for a Jr. Middleweight belt at Jr. Middleweight limit. They are not going for the belt and weight in at welterweight limits. That would be atrocious.
     
    Devildoc, Sep 1, 2010
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  10. The Vacationer

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    these *****s wanted to make their own commissions. they dont go by the book.
     
    The Vacationer, Sep 1, 2010
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  11. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    Well too bad coz Floyd is not boxing. He's not even in the top 10 ATG list. LOL Floyd can say all these things and yet he has not petitioned anything.
     
    Devildoc, Sep 1, 2010
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  12. Horus

    Horus Member Full Member

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    it is really incredible what is going in boxing
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    right now..We aRe really seeing history get distorted.. it is crazy

    IN FRONT OF OUR EYES HISTORY IS BEING DISTORTED!!:ibutt
     
    Horus, Sep 1, 2010
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  13. Twirdman

    Twirdman Active Member Full Member

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    Without resorting to just randomness and screaming tell us what is so bad about this. People have already brought up half a dozen greats who have fought at catchweights for titles. What is so bad about Pac doing it. Catchweights are not new to boxing they've been here for a long time.
     
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  14. Horus

    Horus Member Full Member

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    pLEASE READ THE OPENING POST...:cool:

    When we think of fighter jumping up multiple divisions and winning championships, automatically the feat inply's that the fighter took GREAT RISK in jumping weightclasses because the fighter is giving up all his natural advantaged of fighting in his natural weightclass to chase greatness.

    This 8th title deserves an Asterisk because it was no act of greatness, but an act of cowardness form with the cause of a catchweight.

    1. Where is the GREATNESS on November 13th 2010???
    2. Where was the GREATNESS on November 14th 2009???


    Manny Pacquiao Instead of saying the RISK is not Worth the REWARD I think I am too small to competitivly compete at 154, so I wont compete at 154. Has decided he still wants the GREATNESS of having a championship at 154 but not the RISK. Just like he did 1t 147.

    He likes the reward of getting a Offical Weightclass limit titles, but he doesnt want to put in the work of and take the RISK of fighting at the Offical Weightclass limit.

    He decides the only way he can win an Offical Weightclass limit title is to take away the challenging part and the risk of fighting at Offical Weightclass limit., which is fighting at 154 and 147 pounds. And still kept the REWARD of being a champion at 154 and 147.

    If Pacquiao had to fight at 154 no Catchweight.
    1. He would have to Lose speed too add weight! Thus making him rely more on his boxing ability.

    2. He would significently lose his power advantage.

    3. He would have to learn how to managed the time in rounds to be to survived the natural disadvantaged of fighting a bigger man, which is the gradual wear down of weight advantaged as time goes on.

    4. He would have to legitimately have to learn how to worry about his legs being able to last in a 12 round fight with a bigger man instead of a weight drain opponent having to worry about his legs being gone after the 4th round.

    These are the RISK Pacquiao refuse to take in order to recieve the REWARD of an 154 pound title.!!

    Instead he ask for a catchweight for the second time in 1 year span, taking the coward appoarch to winning a title in a higher weight class
     
    Horus, Sep 1, 2010
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  15. Twirdman

    Twirdman Active Member Full Member

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    Again by calling Pac a coward you are missing something very important. Pac has already won at 6 weight classes with no catchweights. This is a feat he shares only with ODLH. So again how can you possibly say that Pac isn't an ATG just because of these two fights?
     
    Twirdman, Sep 1, 2010
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