Pacquaio vs Hatton

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  1. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    I've not singled you out anywhere in this, I'm saying the usual anti-Hatton posters in general were quick to jump on the Lascano performance as proof of stamina/ chin problems, even knowing that Hatton had a virus in the week leading into the fight.
     
  2. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    I just felt like giving my opinion on Hatton's chin and stamina regardless :smoke

    I think its more the stamina. He was clearly moving like a character from the movie "Resident Evil" when he was hurt by Lazcano. I always felt like conditioning was key to his chin, its usually the case...but especially with Hatton.

    He always takes too many, his tank has to be 100% full.
     
  3. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    A lot of people on the GF are too quick to call someone shot.

    A guy like Erik Morales to me is/was shot, ditto Corrales and a few others.

    Mosley, Tszyu and Forrest are past peak - Lennox Lewis was when he finished.
     
  4. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Good post
     
  5. Infern0

    Infern0 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If Hatton came into this fight in prime condition, fought smartly and fought the best fight of his carrer, and Pac had an off day Ricky might scrape a win, but that wont happen, Ricky doesn't take his conditioning seriously, he's already gone fatton. It's disgraceful
     
  6. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    I think Graham Earl might be shot.
     
  7. GazOC

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    ...and Oscar...;O)
     
  8. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Yeah, but I really think Earl is setting the benchmark here. If we think of this in top trumps terms he has gone from being like 4 or 5 in a few areas to 0 in every single one, and - 157 for chin.

    Oscar still has a 6 for chin.
     
  9. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Hatton isn't as bad as I expected actually.

    Christmas may change that though..............
     
  10. trotter

    trotter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You are DEFINITELY not going well over the top about last nights win for Pacquaio are you ?
     
  11. trotter

    trotter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He was shagged out against Lazcano, no doubt. I partially wrote him off after that I guess.

    But I think there was a LOT of nervous energy flying about that night after the Floyd defeat. And Lazcano was a tough hombre.

    Hatton looked fresher against Paulie to me, partially rejuvenated. That may be a bad analysis - but that's what I made of it.
     
  12. Infern0

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    Hatton is not in manny's league, who has hatton fought?

    Ok one good win against Kosta but since Floyd humiliated him he had a diodhy win against a shot journeyman in lazscano and a win over paulie who manny would have blasted in 3 rounds
     
  13. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Hatton did look sharper offensively. Well...he just plain boxed better than he has for a long time so Mayweather is paying off.

    I still don't think he actually got hit with any sort of hurtful punch that is going to tire you. I'd expect any world class guy to be able to box 12 rounds and look fresh if they have literally everything going there own way.

    Like I said, 12 rounds with Pacquiao and his chin and stamina are vindicated. He'll need both of them to be working at the same time or he gets KO'd. I don't think you can have a great chin if you are tired, and I don't think you can be fresh if you are not durable enough to take punishment.
     
  14. trotter

    trotter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You are putting FAR too much stock into one performance against a guy who hadn't made that weight in years

    And a win against a sub-standard champ at 135

    Pacquaio hasn't really scraped the surface of any division above 130 lbs for me

    Oscar was still a decent fighter at 154 but he was dead at 147
     
  15. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Manny would have stopped PM in 3 rounds? Don't make me laugh.