Pacquaio's sparring partners talk

:rofl:rofl:rofl

Not just floyd...

I bet the *****s love watching the crib, too bad they wont be seeing their idol

 

Whoever gave you the idea that these are "boxing fans?" The likes of diva were fans of boxers first (preferably Mexies), and having have had their posterboys disrespectfully wiped to the canvas and manhandled like rag dolls even those employing the most unorthodox and filthy "mineral-recycling" methods (aka ****-drinking), you could easily understand the gripes and phantasmagoria clouding their capacity to think even with the slightest hint of objectivity... :good

 

There is alot of truth of what you say.
Pac imo will always be bothered by the true boxers of the sport like Marquez and Mayweather......but you are correct.....The Marquez' and Mayweather's of the world are very seldom seen.....and you still have to guage Pac as a fighter while he's fighting all types of styles and not just brilliant boxers like Marquez and Mayweather.

A fighter like MAB for example was tremendous...and exellent all around fighter. and Pac proved his worth against who imo was a near prime MAB.

The devestating stoppages of Morales are worthwhile to note even in acknowleadging Morales was in decline.
I mean, who the hell else does that to Morales prime or not??

Then you go way up to Welterweight and do that to imo not prime, but still one hell of a fighter in Miguel Cotto.
Imo Cotto still had plenty in the tank, and Pac took him by the horns and chopped him up.

Impressive indeed PH|LLA.......all the *******s have to do to see that I've appreciated Pacquiao's work over the years is get over the fact that I viewed both the Marquez fights in Marquez' favor and stop labeling such a view as hate.......If the *******s could get past that, they would see most of us here have great appreciation for Pacquiao's abilities.


The only difference between me and you is that I'm not going to set aside that Pacquiao refused to be tested.
Imo there is good reason to suspect a fighter who with each weight climb loses little of his physical gifts.....speed, quickness, punching power, stamina, workrate......the list can go on and on......

We've debated this for months now......Mayweather for example on his climb from 130 to 147 lbs, lost quickness, speed and punching power. His workrate as a welter has dropped significantly, as had most fighters who have gone up that many weight classes always do.......

Then we have Pacquiao's own training team who have voiced what we already know......"Pacquiao is now quicker, faster, and stronger than he ever was before."
"He's getting better as he's aging."


You're a *******, so its easy to see where you can convince yourself there should'nt even be a suspicion.

.....but I'm not a *******, and I will not ignore red flags that are all around Pacquiao sticking out like a sore thumb that he's doing things now as he's getting older and climbing up more weight divisions, that point to that he may very well be doing it through synthetic means.

When you have a situation like Pacquiao's, you just dont dismiss it as being hounded by Mayweather for asking for the extra drug tests......
If you're clean, and thats very important.....'if you're clean".......as a fighter who should acknowleadge that your performances as you've gone up in weight have been like no other before you......I would think you would have the obligation to say, "listen, I dont want a cloud hanging over my career. I'm a clean fighter and you can do all the drug testing you want from me.
I'm clean and have nothing to hide."


........but instead, we get weak excuse after weak excuse on why he cant be bothered with such testing.
Truly and honestly here PH|LLA, its got to be embarrasing to come in here and attemp to defend him the way guys like you are doing.
The conduct and comportment of that whole Pacquiao team in regards to the testing has just been outright an embarrasment.
How anyone thats proffesional can show their faces to the camera and say the things Pac is saying now like in that video of that women in Pacquiao's face asking him if he's on steroids, is beyond me.:-(

 

Considering the ridiculous avatar that you're sporting, coming from the likes of you, I consider everything you just said as a compliment to myself.

 

The consistent point is that you just can't judge where the punches are coming from.

His opponents say it, his sparring partners say it....

That is what makes him great, he's unreadable.

 

get a life ypou PCUKING FOB go petition somebody that needs it you with your BULL**** WAY OF TALKING when did you and your lolo get off the BOAT

 

WHere's Steve Forbes comment?Also you dont learn much from interviewing these guys,they have to praise him otherwise they will be shipped out.

I'm just surprised there are no reports of how Manny is tearing all his opponents.The last time we heard that was when Manny fought a guy who had 6 fights and all of them being losses

 

I dont believe Pac can outbox truly skilled boxers.......I'm talking about Marquez, Mayweather, Duran, Chavez, Leonard, Hearns, those types......

I most certainly believe Pac can use boxing skill to outbox the type of fighters that fall short of greatness.

Let me put it this way......I believe Pac has the ability to outbox good boxers, but not great one's.
I dont believe Pac even comes close to outboxing a great boxer......once he starts to get outboxed, he will turn to what comes natural......throw boxing out the window and try to destroy.
The last great boxer Pac fought he did exactly that, and imo got thoroughly outboxed.

.....in fact, I thought he got thoroughly outboxed for 2 rounds vs Cotto, and it was Cotto who then made the mistake and abandoned that by taking the fight to Pacquiao.........and I only consider Cotto a good to exellent boxer, but certainly not a great one.

 

i think MAB is as skilled as JMM, though they have different styles, and pac dominated MAB.

with regards to round 1 of Pac/Cotto, i think its just a feeling out round for pac. he was still gauging miguel at that point. at round 2 he seemed to solve cottos hard jabs.

and cotto didn't just make those mistakes, pac made him to do those mistakes, imo.

 

I've been saying on boards like this even before Pac fought MAB, that I considered him only a good boxer and far from a great one......

I've stated it so many times I dont want to get into it again, fighters like MAB and DLH I dont consider to be great boxers......they are certainly good boxers, but imo not great ones.
They are just too predictable with their jab and hook routine that they become too predictable and Pac is allowed to focus and be learly of just their left hands as incoming.......you've been around here long enough, you know I've said that many times.

......and take a relook at the early rounds of Pac-Cotto, Pac never got into the fight until Cotto started to advance at him aggressively.

Hey, I'm still giving Pac high praise for his Cotto win.
If you had told me beforehand that Pac would take the bull by the horns and chopped him down, I would have never believed it.
.......but sadly that point takes us to why Pac is being discussed the way he is today.

 

I don't know if we watched the same fight, i definitely didn't spot the 2 rounds were Cotto is "thoroughly" winning. There's only one "close" round where Cotto won, the first round - where Pac somewhat measures Cotto's distance and power. Bar that one close round, all the rounds were pretty much one sided by a mile.

 

lol

You're the Farmboxer version of a Pac hater.