Pacquiao and math

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by IsaL, Jun 23, 2010.


  1. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Dude, they're delusional! This doofus Badger is ******ed, he is the definition of the word *******, a Pac fan that is too ******ed to comprehend the simplest things!

    They've proven time and time again they can't deal with FACTS. :-(

    Once again they prove why they are the worst fans affiliated to boxing.

    To them Pac means everything in their life. They believe Pac, and believe him to be this great thing, more important than their dignity!

    Pac lies to them and says he's afraid of needles..they defend him and justify it. Pac gets exposed as a liar.
    Pac lies to them and says he's weaken by Random test and needs 24 days?? WTF? :nut anyway, they believe him and defend him until he's exposed giving blood for the Clottey fight.
    Pac lies and says he can't fight after May...they defend him and justify his lie.
    Pac lies and says he fights for his fans, and fights the best. His fans support that statement and justify the David Diaz fight, the 145 catchweight, fighting a fighter who had lost to a fighter he had already destroyed at a catchweight.
    Pac lies and says he doesn't know what a steroid is...his fans defend him, and believe him.:lol:

    They call him honorable, and loyal??? WTF? :nut They act as if he is innocent, like an innocent child, because he only went to school up to the 1st grade..that he doesn't know what a steroid is :lol:, that he's humble...and accuse Mayweather of many things..that the avg man can see Pac is guilty of.:-(

    *******s are what they are Pac fans that are ******ed, hence the word *******.
     
  2. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Clottey has lost in all his big fights. More importantly Clottey was coming OFF a LOSS...GUESS to who??? The man pacquiao had just beat!

    700K *******s and casual fans were fooled, but not real fans.
     
  3. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    I'm no *****. I'm a boxing fan who's very much intrigued by the 140, 147, 154 divisions right now.
     
  4. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    Here's my theory. Pac claims Team Mayweather's PEDs use accusations has hurt his marketability and caused him loss of income. Since history shows his lawsuit is unwinnable, the purse split gives Pac an opportunity to stick it to Team Mayweather.

    I'm sure in Pac's mind, he is saying this...

    "I'm not giving a penny more than a 50/50 split to that motherf*cker who's trying to ruin my reputation with false PEDs accusations. I'd rather make that amount fighting 2 more fights and deny that scumbag money he doesn't deserve."
     
  5. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    When will you ******ed *******s realize that being the fighter of the decade has no bearing on who the bigger draw is and who gets the bigger share of the purse?? It's not relevant so stop trying to make it.:-(
     
  6. Samski313

    Samski313 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd Mayweather PPV's:


    1.)
    Mayweather vs Gatti - 365,000 buys = $16.5 million revenue
    2.) Mayweather vs Judah - 375,000 buys = $16.8 million revenue
    3.) Mayweather vs Baldomir - 325,000 buys = $16.3 million revenue
    4.) Mayweather vs De La Hoya - 2.4 million buys = $136.6 million revenue
    5.) Mayweather vs Hatton - 920,000 buys = $50 million revenue
    6.) Mayweather vs Marquez - 1 million buys = $52 million revenue
    7.) Mayweather vs Mosley - 1.4 million buys = $78.3 million revenue

    Total PPV Fights: 7
    Total PPV Buys: 6.8 million buys
    Total PPV Revenue: $366.5 million revenue
    Average PPV per fight: 970,000 buys
    Average Revenue per fight: $52.3 million revenue


    Manny Pacquiao PPV's:

    Note: Pacquiao's fight with Oscar Larios in Phillipines was PPV but the data isn't available for it, so It isn't included in this as there are no ppv buys available for it.

    1.) Pacquiao vs Morales I - 350,000 buys = $15.7 million revenue
    2.) Pacquiao vs Morales II - 360,000 buys = $16.2 million revenue
    3.) Pacquiao vs Morales III - 350,000 buys = $17.5 million revenue
    4.) Pacquiao vs Solis - 200,000 buys = $6 million revenue
    5.) Pacquiao vs Barrera II - 350,000 buys = $17.4 million revenue
    6.) Pacquiao vs Marquez II - 400,000 buys = $20.2 million revenue
    7.) Pacquiao vs Diaz - 250,000 buys = $11 million revenue
    8.) Pacquiao vs De La Hoya - 1.25 million buys = $70 million revenue
    9.) Pacquiao vs Hatton - 850,000 buys = $45 million revenue
    10.) Pacquiao vs Cotto - 1.25 million buys = $70 million revenue
    11.) Pacquiao vs Clottey - 700,000 buys = $35.3 million revenue

    Total PPV Fights: 11
    Total PPV Buys: 6.3 million buys
    Total PPV Revenue: $324.3 million revenue
    Average PPV per fight: 570,000 buys
    Average Revenue per fight: $29.4 million revenue


    Mayweather's top three PPV's:

    1.) Mayweather vs De La Hoya - 2.4 million buys = $136.6 million revenue
    2.) Mayweather vs Mosley - 1.4 million buys = $78.3 million revenue
    3.) Mayweather vs Marquez - 1 million buys = $52 million revenue


    Pacquiao's top three PPV's:

    1.) Pacquiao vs De La Hoya - 1.25 million buys = $70 million revenue
    2.) Pacquiao vs Cotto - 1.25 million buys = $70 million revenue
    3.) Pacquiao vs Hatton - 850,000 buys = $45 million revenue


    Interesting Comparisons:


    Mayweather vs Baldomir - 325,000 buys = $16.3 million revenue
    Pacquiao vs Diaz - 250,000 buys = $11 million revenue

    Mayweather vs De La Hoya - 2.4 million buys = $136.6 million revenue
    Pacquiao vs De La Hoya - 1.25 million buys = $70 million revenue

    Mayweather vs Hatton - 920,000 buys = $50 million revenue
    Pacquiao vs Hatton - 850,000 buys = $45 million revenue

    Mayweather vs Gatti - 365,000 buys = $16.5 million revenue
    Pacquiao vs Morales I - 350,000 buys = $15.7 million revenue

    Mayweather vs Marquez - 1 million buys = $52 million revenue
    Pacquiao vs Marquez II - 400,000 buys = $20.2 million revenue

    Mayweather vs Mosley - 1.4 million buys = $78.3 million revenue
    Pacquiao vs Cotto - 1.25 million buys = $70 million revenue
     
  7. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    That's a subject for another thread..Stop trying to derail when you have no facts.

    So kindly GTFO if your going to do your usual race bashing, and give off the wall opinions.:hi:
     
  8. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    First of all, opinions don't count when there are FACTS.
    Secondly, thats you guyses and Pacs primodanna mentallity problem RIGHT there...

    Pac is in no position to dictate anyone what he gives or not gives. He is not the one who calls the final shots, he wants to, but not here, not against GBP and Mayweather.

    After the Clottey fight, Pac's stock likely dropped.
    After the Mosley fight, Mayweather stock likely jumped.
     
  9. Leon

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    rofl pacfags getting killed in this thread
     
  10. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Excellent post expect to hear nothing but crickets from *******s. PBF has only had 7 PPVs to Pac's 11 and has stlill done more numbers and more money with less PPVS. It doesn't get any clearer as to who the bigger draw is and who deserves the bigger share.:deal Only a ******* would try and tell you otherwise.
     
  11. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes it is.

    -- Pac dropped out of the Mayweather fight and chose Clottey as the opponent.
    -- Arum put up no fight for Clottey to get his desired trainer
    -- Pac and Roach hired Clottey's life long sparring partner

    It is completely Pac's fault. Just like it would be Mayweather's fault if he set up a fight with a bum or a guy too scared to hit back. (I think Clottey was paid off due to the fact that he hit Pac at will and got a purse doubling bonus. He has NEVER looked like that in a fight.)

    Now Pac is back asking for the same terms, post horrible fight, that he dropped out of the last negotiations. Still, you clowns lay the blame at Mayweather's feet?
     
  12. Atlanta

    Atlanta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lets get real here, Pacquiao is the smaller draw. That is an indisputable fact. Against opponents of common standing he has done consistently less than Mayweather. If that is because of promotion or media attention, that is Top Rank's(and by extension Pacquiao's) fault. Fighter of the decade awards and p4p status doesn't mean **** in negotiations Oscar fought 4 p4p kings and each time he received a bigger cut because he was the bigger draw.

    Now, regarding the negotiations. 2 separate negotiations occurred, the first in December and they ended and the new ones now. The negotiations in December ended because Manny was afraid of needles or some voodoo ****, and he sued Mayweather on top of it. He left the table, and Mayweather left the table, now since then things have changed Mayweather crushed Pacquiao's PPV numbers in a dominating performance. Now Pacquiao is back at the table but wants to hit rewind and go back to the olive branch that Floyd extended and which he spit on. Well That isn't how Negotiations work. You operate under the most recent knowledge and the most recent information place Floyd firmly in the drivers seat.

    Another thing, this one is for the *******s or anyone else who thinks Pacquiao is a great human fighting for the people. He's acting, he's in the game for the same reason Mayweather is and that is money. He found his niche playing a nice guy, Mayweather found his playing a bad guy. Nice guys don't cheat on their wives and have them crying at Mass. Not saying Pacquiao is a bad guy, but don't put hoist him up higher than you would Mayweather based on actions.
     
  13. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    I agree Floyd should get more, but not 60/40, which could mean $20 million more for Floyd, as he were fighting another big PPV fight the same night. Ultimately the 2 boxers decide. I see it 55/45 to 52/48 for Floyd if the fight has a chance of happening.
     
  14. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Solid. :good
     
  15. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    who are these?

    their name sounds like they are into having manage a trois.