pacquiao and roach new excuse to duck Sexy Sergio: "dont forget margarito kod u sergi

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  1. KarlBrandt

    KarlBrandt Active Member Full Member

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    Maybe he just doesnt like to find excuses
     
  2. Clarky Cat

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    You're so blinded by your own favouritism it's almost beyond belief. If Mayweather is such a crook for COMING TO A CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT for the extra two pounds, then what does that make Pacquiao for making Cotto put his title on the line at 145 instead of full welterweight?

    As for my avatar; you sound like a desperate man who knows he's lost the argument in bringing that up. I'll draw whatever the **** I like, thanks.
     
  3. Clarky Cat

    Clarky Cat Stalwart Full Member

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    Please, if youre going to quote me then at least have the decency to understand what I've written.
     
  4. puga_ni_nana

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    you are an idiot. i told the difference.

    pacquiao and cotto agreed on a catchweight and both made the weight professionally.

    marquez and maywetaher both agreed on a catchweight, marquez has done his part and floyd weighed above it.

    if you think it is even remotely comparable, then i guess you really ******ed.
     
  5. Ak47

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    sexy sergio? lol Sergio has been acting like the biggest ***** ***** in boxing the last year

    he's done nothing since Paul Williams which seems like ancient history

    **** him and his whining....You ***gots are so up his butt because you thought his career would skyrocket

    hate to brake it to you clowns, he's not interested in legacy like you guys are, he wants the biggest payday possible. He'd rather fight JCC than the big boys up north

    Sergio is the biggest ***** right now in boxing and he gets a pass because you guys hate Pacquiao so much haha
     
  6. puga_ni_nana

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    yes i understand that to you, pacquiao is a hype as perpetuated by TR. now give me a current boxer who has a better resume than pacquiao.
     
  7. Clarky Cat

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    And Mayweather and Marquez AGREED upon the penalty. How difficult is that to understand? But hey, you just ignore the fact your idol is guilty of very similar weight manipulation.
     
  8. puga_ni_nana

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    cotto and pacquiao has a similar over the weight penalty but both are professional enough to fight within its limit.

    marquez is professional enough to make the same weight limit. floyd didn't. comparing what floyd did to what pacquioa did is absolutely mind boggling moronic to the ***** standard. i guess that's why your idol floyd is in jail. you guys are so stupid it's not funny.
     
  9. KarlBrandt

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    Pacquiao Admits Catch-Weight Is Crucial To Outcome With Cotto :
    Written by Frank Lotierzo
    Monday, 09 November 2009 19:00


    This past Sunday on GMANews.TV, Manny Pacquiao said he knows exactly what Miguel Cotto is going through trying to get down to weight the week before the fight. Pacquiao went as far as to say that having been in a similar situation himself, the weight reduction is going to play a crucial role in the outcome of the fight.

    Manny stated that along with trying to sweat off the weight, Cotto will be reducing his caloric intake to make the 145 catch-weight limit stipulated in the fight contract. And he knows that effort will be very demanding on Miguel.

    Outside of having your relatives referee and score your fight, there's no more sure way to compromise a fighter and help alter the outcome of it than beating him on the scale. Bringing a fighter down in weight if it's a struggle affects everything he does in the ring in a bad way.

    Pacquiao's failure to make weight resulted in him losing his WBC flyweight title to Medgoen Singsurat when he was knocked out in the third round 10 years ago. He also had a difficult time making the 130-pound limit for his rematch with Juan Manuel Marquez in March of 2008, a fight in which some observers believe the split decision verdict in his favor could have just as easily gone to Marquez.

    A little over a week out from the fight Pacquiao says he weighs between 148 and 149. So much for him being the smaller fighter next to Cotto.

    The catch-weight of 145 for Pacquiao-Cotto has been a topic of fierce debate since the bout was signed. One side of the argument is that Cotto is too big and should meet Pacquiao somewhere below the welterweight limit of 147 to make it more fair. The opposing side asks why Cotto has to put his WBO welterweight title on the line and not be allowed to weigh the maximum the division allows.

    To those who believe Cotto isn't at a slight disadvantage coming in at 145 Manny Pacquiao says you're wrong. And if making 145 isn't a big deal for Cotto why has he never fought below 146 since moving up to welterweight?


    A sure sign of a fighter who struggles getting down to weight is the one who usually weighs in right at the division limit or a half to a full pound below it. Jake LaMotta barely made middleweight before and during his reign as middleweight champ. I trained with former light heavyweight champ Dwight Muhammad Qawi - and making 175 was always a struggle for him, evidenced by him always coming in right at the light heavyweight limit or a half a pound under it once he won and defended the title.

    Then there's the other side where fighters like Marvin Hagler often made the middleweight limit by 2/3 pounds. And the same applied to Michael Spinks making the light heavyweight limit of 175. Both Hagler and Spinks breezed to make weight and always came in under the division limit.

    Miguel Cotto has been weighing in between 146 and 147 since he outgrew the junior welterweight division. That's a testament indicating making the 147 pound limit isn't easy for him and it requires a lot just for him to do that.

    Making 145 isn't the issue concerning Cotto; there's no doubt he'll be able to do that. And it wouldn't be a shock, at least not here, if he in fact came in at 144 being that's he's probably been consumed with how much he weighs during his preparation for the fight. The question is will he be his best and the same fighter who fought Mosley, Margarito and Clottey? And no one knows the answer to that.

    One thing we do know is Cotto won't be better at 145 or 144.5 for Pacquiao than he was at 146 for the three previous mentioned fights. These two fighters are almost the same size and it wouldn't be the least bit surprising if when they get into the ring Saturday night that Pacquiao looks like the bigger fighter.

    Anyone who has ever been around a fighter who's trying to cut weight knows it's not a pretty sight. There's only so much spit, waste and sweat in their body. And there's a good chance that that will compromise Cotto. Which doesn't mean Pacquiao wouldn't have won the fight even if Cotto came in at 146/147, if he does.

    However, those two pounds that Cotto has to lose will affect him more than the 147 he could've carried would've harmed Pacquiao. If losing unnatural weight hurt Pacquiao against Singsurat and Marquez, then it's a fair point Cotto may be hurt trying to cut the extra pound to fight him.

    Of course it'll be argued that Pacquiao had to cut weight because he was still growing, and that's a legit point. But on the other hand, Cotto has already flowered and is very vulnerable to being a little depleted at 145 at this stage of his career.

    Does the catch-weight clause of 145 mean Pacquiao shouldn't receive all due props if he wins? No. Pacquiao supporters will argue it made no difference and he's just the greater fighter. Whereas Cotto's fans will be emphatic that the catch-weight was the main reason Miguel lost if he does. Either way it'll be overstated.

    But it's an undeniable truth that Pacquiao will not be confronting the same fighter in Cotto that fought Mosley and Margarito.
     
  10. Clarky Cat

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    The fact that you called me a '*****' is all the proof thats needed to demonstrate what an absolute ****wit you are. Pacquiao is just as guilty as Mayweather of manipulating the weight limits for his fights. This is undeniable.
     
  11. KarlBrandt

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    Lol i bet that Sergio Martinez is a ***** too because he said that Pacquiao is overrated
     
  12. puga_ni_nana

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    http://www.philstar.com/sportsarticle.aspx?articleid=521950&publicationsubcategoryid=69

    The wide-bodied left-hooker from Puerto Rico on Monday crushed all insinuations that he’s having problems with his weight, and assured everyone that he’d come in at 145 lb for the Friday’s official weigh-in at the MGM Grand.


    “When we took this fight we decided that we were fine with 145. We knew we could do it and we knew we would be at our best the next night. We would not have taken this fight if we didn’t think I was going to be at my best the next night after the weigh-in,” he said.
    Cotto spoke from Las Vegas, where he’s training for the fight, and told doghouseboxing.com that 145 is what’s been agreed upon, and 145 will it be.


    “The last fight I spent more than 24 hours doing nothing. Just waiting for the weigh-in. My weight was 145. All I have to do is add a half hour to my work every day and I am going to reach 145 with no problem,” he said.
     
  13. puga_ni_nana

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    the fact that you think that it was the same case qualifies you as a *****. it's synonymous to being stupid and idiotic.

    again i would put this in your head,

    floyd did not made the weight. pacquiao, cotto and marquez all made the weight as what all professional boxers should do. only an idiot would compare it as the same case.
     
  14. Clarky Cat

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    Some of these idiots will cling to anything. It's sad really.
     
  15. bballchump11

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