Pacquiao and the black fighter dilema

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by BigReg, Nov 17, 2009.


  1. scatterbrain

    scatterbrain Boxing Addict Full Member

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    and you are an idiot if you compare hatton, baldo and gatti to the level of em, mab and jmm. :patsch:lol::patsch

    or are you seriously stupid?
     
  2. MattMattMatt

    MattMattMatt Guest

    Are you seriously comparing Hatton, Baldomir and Gatti to Marquez, Morales and Barrera? Any self respecting boxing fan should no issue with two exciting fighters going at it again, especially when they are all in another leauge to the fighters you compared them to.
     
  3. Main Events

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    Because pacquiao chose to fight the bigger Hatton ODLH Cotto, instead of Bradley, the Petersons, the Alexanders.

    While Mayweather chose to fight the smaller Hatton, midget JMM, instead of Cotto (which pac fought) Margarito and Mosley.

    You need half a brain?
     
  4. tolindoy

    tolindoy UBESTRIDTE MESTER Full Member

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    just because pac destroyed hatton and dominated cotto, then that made them less of a threat than those you mentioned??? WTF mr knows it all...if pac fought those bums you mentioned, same outcome, pac dominates them.....then what????

    aaaah, pac just beat some bums, he's ducking ricky or miguel...sometimes it makes me think you guys really are stupids....
     
  5. JasonChaos27

    JasonChaos27 Active Member Full Member

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    As if to give the impression that floyd doesnt avoid certain fighters and calls it a "business decision".
     
  6. bachatu

    bachatu Pro Full Member

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    Its easy to call Ricky Hatton feet of Stone when he's already been annihilated in 2 rounds by Pacquiao, yet this wasn't mentioned leading up to the fight against Mayweather. Not to mention Ricky "Feet of Stone" actually competed against Mayweather and won some rounds.

    The reason that Pacquiao fought some of the same Mexicans again was because he lost to one (Morales), tied against the other (JMM), and the other (Barrera) exercised the rematch clause in the contract. He fought great fighters consistently which gave him good competition that warranted a rematch, not to mention many of them were very exciting fights.

    Do you guys actually believe anyone at 140lbs would actually give Pacquiao a competitive fight? Based on Pacquiao's recent performances against better opposition, why would he step back and take on lesser opposition?
    Nate Campbell ~ lets see,it appears he was having some problems and quit against Bradley. Bradley is a good fighter, but he isn't an elite fighter, neither is Nate, or the Peterson brothers.

    My point is, if and when Pacquiao loses again, it won't be to a mediocre fighter or even a good one, it will be to another great fighter, the same applies with Mayweather Jr. As much as everyone may want to spin it, Mayweather Jr. still has beat any great fighters above 140lbs, except for DLH (which we know he wasn't at his best). Pacquiao has shown he can not only beat the same fighters Mayweather has faced more convincingly, but also BEAT prime fighters Mayweather is not willing to face and still beat them more convincingly than anyone else.
     
  7. darryl1914

    darryl1914 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This was My fault for not explaining with more detail and information. I totally forgot that there is no IQ requirement in ESB.

    OK, I'll explain what I was saying and I..........Will..........type..........real.........slow.......just........for.......you.

    I wasn't comparing Gatti, Baldomir & Hatton to the Trio of Mexican Brawlers.

    But Pacquiao had beaten them...Why fight them Over & Over & Over again? I can see JMM because of the Controversy. But why not fight different styles of fighters that will test you. People keep saying "Oh Pacman moved up in weight and destroyed people...True (somewhat) but he beat the same kid of Fighter. Sluggers and Brawlers.

    Say what you want about Mayweather but he has faced every style and beat them...South American Sluggers (Baldomir), Mexican Brawlers (Jesus Chavez, Jose Luis Castillo,) Mexican Counter-punchers (JMM) Boxer Puncher with Serious Power (Corrales), Warriors (Gatti), Euro Brawlers (Hatton), Slick Black American Lefty Boxers (Judah and Corley)...

    Floyd as fought and BEATEN every style.

    Manny HAS NEVER FOUGHT.....NEVER.....I MEAN NEVER FOUGHT ANYONE LIKE MAYWEATHER.

    Yet there are several Slick Orthodox and Southpaw Defensive FAST-ASS Black American Boxer "FOAMING AT THE MOUTH" that would have loved a shot at Pacqiuao at 140lbs (Peterson Brothers and Devon Alexander).

    But hatton and Cotto are EASIER TO HIT...AND OF COURSE THE SERIES OF MEXICAN BRAWLERS!!!
     
  8. darryl1914

    darryl1914 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    People are always mentioning the fact that Pacqiao beat the fighters that Floyd beat quicker and more decisively!!!

    Which bring into question your BOXING KNOWLEDGE!!!

    Floyd is a PATIENT Fighter...he doesn't get 2nd or 3rd or even 4th round KO's. He's patient, Smart, Calculating...He finds holes and flaws and in the late rounds he exploits them.

    Floyd was on his way to a Severe Stoppage of Judah...before ALL THAT CHAOS HAPPENED. Hatton was TKO'd in the 10th But was getting DESTROYED from the 4th to the end of that fight. And the De La Hoya scoring of the fight was CRIMINAL....A Split Decision was F**KING LAUGHABLE. Oscar won three rounds and thats if you watched the fight in the dark, with a pair of broken sun-glasses while on Meth!!!!

    JMM Marquez was Knocking Pacquio Silly in the Latter rounds of their fight...Yet he didn't LAND A GLOVE ON MAYWEATHER.

    Oscar challenged Floyd for a fight at 154lbs...And Manny at 147lbs...two fighters who have never fought at those weights....Yet where is all the Backlash and Post about De La Hoya picking on SMALLER FIGHTERS. Yet Mayweather fight JMM...And there are at last 10 Threads a day on ESB saying "FLOYD ONLY FIGHTS SMALLER FIGHTERS....BLAH F**KING BLAH!!!!
     
  9. scatterbrain

    scatterbrain Boxing Addict Full Member

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    you are seriously stupid to even consider the jmm win as something significant.

    pbf was fighting a 36 year old lightweight whose best years were at 126.

    dlh started his career at j lightweight. and pbf at 130. clearly, these two do not really have a signficant disparity in size and weight.

    when they met at 154, there was weight disparity which was naturally offset by speed and age advantage on the part of pbf.

    pbf vs jmm.

    pbf had size, weight, age, height and reach advantage. and you have the stupidity to claim boxing knowledge around here?

    what part of this equation 120-107 do you think it even made the fight remotely competitive.
     
  10. socrates

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    i never knew fighting a black american was a pre-requisite to establishing ones 'greatness' oh well you live and learn,good day.
     
  11. socrates

    socrates THE ORIGINAL... Full Member

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    **** me its the walking talking calzaghe boner!!

    still recovering from the ownage culchulain put on your pathetic arse?

    this fecker He has more faces/alt accounts than Mount Rushmore.
     
  12. tolindoy

    tolindoy UBESTRIDTE MESTER Full Member

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  13. scatterbrain

    scatterbrain Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i knew it.

    there was clearly something amiss about this darryl.

    was he the one that cuchulain chewed up real good?
     
  14. scatterbrain

    scatterbrain Boxing Addict Full Member

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    oh ****. :rofl:lol::rofl.

    i am seriously beginning to think that pbf's black fans here are whining too much.

    to be honest, whenever i see Pimp C post, he reminds me of whitney houston.

    i should start calling him that.
     
  15. tolindoy

    tolindoy UBESTRIDTE MESTER Full Member

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    that guy is a whiner..read some of his posts and you'll know what i mean...:verysad