Pacquiao beats the crap out of Mayweather

Speed, activity, angles. None of that **** is going to throw Mayweather off. Pacquiao would have to be able to deal with what Mayweather brings to the table. Manny by nature is an aggresive fighter. In the beginning, he may try to come at Mayweather. However, doing that takes away much of the advantage of being left handed. He shots will get picked off and he'll be eating counter shots left and right. Manny can't beat Mayweather coming at him all night. He can't beat Mayweather on the inside, and he can't beat Mayweather going backwards . Manny has a very effective in and out style. However, that **** works best against guys without movement(how many guys has Manny faced with good movement, footwork?).

As far as how many rounds Manny woulde win, I have no idea. I thought Oscar won 4 rounds max against Floyd and one judge gave him 7 rounds. Some judges like to score mostly on activity. In that situation, Manny could win the fight by stealing rounds. This fight in some ways rminds me of Hopkins vs. Calzaghe. However, I believe is young enough where he won't be worn down by Pac's activity and will be able to land enough clean shots to win the fight.

 

I agree with you here BigReg....

Floyd my not be known as heavy handed, but his clean counter punching will be just that against a in and out fighter like Manny.

 

Floyd beat up Judah and Corely.
Judah won 3 rounds in a 12 round fight.
Corely was knocked down 3 or 4 times.
Floyd was hit cleanly a handful of times then got shook a little (Corely) and this is enough to give Manny an edge?

How about we harp on the facts:
Floyd beat up Judah and Corely.
Judah won 3 rounds in a 12 round fight.
Corely was knocked down 3 or 4 times.

 

Pac is in the twighlight of his career?

 

Floyd will have to change his defense against a southpaw, and since his success has been largely due to the fact that his defense is awesome, this will hurt him. Also, while Floyd will indeed be able to hit Pacquiao pretty much at will, I think Pacquiao can take the shots. And you'd better believe that for every counter Floyd sneaks in, Pac will hit him with two good shots and 3-4 bad shots which Floyd will take on the arms or shoulders.

If Pacquiao doesn't get KO'd, which he probably won't, I can see him wearing Floyd down and either stopping him late from an accumulation of punishment, or at least slowing him down enough to win a close decision.

 

I thought Floyd would win but my opinion keeps changine... I think that Floyd is gonna have to up his work rate to something we have not seen for a very long time to beat Manny, pot shotting won't work, if he does that he will lose a UD imo.

 

SO you believe Mayweather can still beat a roided PAcquiao? Your idol doesn't think so. Lend him your balls for while.

He will cry like a baby.


Pac now >>>>>>>>>> Pac vs JMM

 

I just watched Judah vs. Mayweather and Judah is 10x the defensive fighter that Pacquiao is. While it's true that Floyd struggled the first 3-4 rounds, Floyd slowed him down with body punching, and clean, accurate combinations. Pacquiao does not have the head movement, or (low guard) body movement, that Judah had/has. Judah was in and out of range, constant head movement, the occasional shoulder roll, changing levels... I have never seen Pacquiao do any of that.

 

i love how everyone has a plan to beat mayweather before a fight, but it never seems to happen

then they cite some of his fights as proof, yet, he won them, ALL

 

Were you high while watching? Floyd had his moments of struggle, but he still dominated both Corley and Judah. Floyd knocked Corley down twice. The only reason why Corley was able to get some big shots in is because Floyd chose to fight Corley's fight to make a statement. Floyd knows Pac is a big puncher therefore he's not going to trade with him. And Judah was only effective for 4 rounds. Sorry, the most trouble Floyd ever had was in the first fight against Castillo but he was fighting with an injury. In my eyes, yes, Floyd lost that fight. But we're assuming if Pac-Floyd happens Floyd will be in top shape.

Let's not get carried away over Pac's recent win. Beating Clottey just tells me Pac is strong enough to stand toe to toe with a 147 pounder. That's all. Strength and skill are two different things. Clottey is nowhere near Floyd's level skill-wise. If Floyd had beaten a high volume puncher like Margarito I wouldn't be stupid to assume Floyd would dominate Pac because Margo and Pac are two different fighters in terms of skill.

 

I really, really wanna see Pac win against floyd. Partially because Im a pac fan, and partially because I just love to see seemingly invincible fighters lose their 0. But like another poster said, one of floyd's biggest attributes is his ability to stick to game plan, and that is going to cause pac problems. I think its possible for pac to pull off the W, and I hope he does, but I am no more or less confident of his ability to do that based on the clottey fight.

 

Thank you! Floyd might have stopped Judah in the 10th if not for that low blow and the eruption afterward. The crowd was hyped for this fight too! I had it 9 rounds to 3 in favor of Floyd. I guess if you give Judah the 12th it would be 8 to 4 in favor of Floyd. Either way, Floyd destroyed Judah and dominated him for the majority of the fight.

If Judah is the *******'s southpaw litmus test, then this is a test that Pac will fail. Pac is too easy to hit as we saw yet again in this last fight against the lackluster Clottey. Compare Floyd's face after Judah, to Pac's face after Clottey.

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I agree Pac will win it but even Mayweather will have a better chance than JH on Jeopardy.

 

I think BOTH *******s and *****s(I'm a Pac fan with immense respect for both fighters) are wrong for thinking this fight will have the word easy in it and I have my two sided reasoning so here it goes:

On the Pac side: Pac is a phenomal specimen and offensive machine as a fighter. His skittish movement, blinding speed with serious pop, crazy angles of attack and workrate make him very hard to deal with when he's on the attack. However when he's not punching he's open to be hit and this favors Floyd. Floyd is the best there is today at tagging attacking fighters with clean counters and he WILL touch Pac up. Pac just recently in the past few years has been paying attention more to defense but he will always get hit because it's his nature to attack so defense is secondary to him. Plus for many years, his offense was so fearsome that only great fighters like Marquez and Morales could really catch the openings he provided to good effect. Thankfully for Pac he possesses the chin/recuperative powers to offset this.

On the Floyd side. A genius well rounded boxer who can do it all but is rooted in careful calculating counter punching and systematic dismemberments(aka potshotting) He can disect any style and is nearly impossible to consistently tag effectively. Because of his impeccable defense, pin point punching, and calculating nature, his offense only shows in spots. He'll need to do more than this against Pac. Countering a slow Marquez is one thing but Pac carried all his speed and movement up in weight with him. Plus, Marquez and Morales showed that the formula to beating Pac contains intelligence AND committing to spots of risky sustained attack on Manny to fight him off or at least hang with him. Pac fights harder when challenged and does so with a blistering barrage of punches. Floyd essentially has to do what Ray Leonard did when behind against Tommy Hearns in their first fight....and that is dig in hard and take it to him.

On a side note......whoever said that Pac throwing 1200+ shots in the twilight of his career is indicative of PED use is just plain stupid. I guess Joe Calzaghe should be called out too huh? He throws those numbers up in twelve rounds and is older, much bigger, and was doing it past his prime(he did so above his prime weight class to at 175). C'mon Son....Getthe****outtaherewiththatbull****