Pacquiao can be another Sugar Ray Robinson...Roach

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  1. PolishPummler

    PolishPummler Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    AHAHA what is he supposed to say???

    My fighter is probably going to lose??:lol: :lol:

    And he was saying that before the first EM fight and the JMM fight.That's what trainers do.
     
  2. Danny

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    I quite agree with you, but saying he can be the next Ray Robinson? Not in my view. Robinson's the best P4P boxer in history.
     
  3. PolishPummler

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    No doubt everyone loves Pacman.I havent said otherwise.The only thing im saying is that some rabid Pinoy fans vastly overrate him.If he does what you mentioned then no one can say **** about his greatness but until then....

    Those salt mines are very famous.I have a hunk laying around the house somewhere.Caves that are of pure rock salt.
     
  4. PacDbest

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    Me Idiot??? I give you a Great example of Idiot, Think about ALLBLACK!!! Pacdbest is not.

    You don't get what I'm trying to imply. I thought you are smart enough. Pac wins against MAB & EM are very impressive compare to what other Great fighters did against Great fighters in the Past. DLH-Whitaker, DLH-PBF, DLH-Tito, Chavez-Taylor, SRL-Hagler, SRL-Hearns2, Ali-Frazier, these fights are Great against great, but this is not like what Pac did against MAB & EM. Hearns annihilation of Duran came close. but Hearns is the naturally bigger Man. Pac was going in those fight as the smaller man. Name me a smaller fighter with 2 wins like that against a bigger & a Great fighter??? There are very Few.

    So I don't buy what Crap you said to discredit Pac wins against MAB & EM. What stuck into my mind is How impressively he beat This Great fighter Prime or Not.
     
  5. kg0208

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    So you're guessing and trying to play it off as fact. :lol::lol::lol::lol:
     
  6. kg0208

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    Pacman was the smaller man. If you're so smart PacD, then stop contradicting yourself. Remember, if Pacman LOST at lower weights because he was weight drained, then that means he needed to move up in weight. So he was not the smaller man in those fights. In facts, in the last Morales fight, he was signifiganly larger than Morales....isn't that why you keep pointing out he could fight at 140:deal

    That's why you're an idiot. You talk about how small Pacman is when you want to build him up, but then how he was weight drained when he loses and you want an excuse.

    Either way, nothing you just said had anything to do with what you asked me. MAB's prime was from about 94 or 95 to 99-00. You don't buy it? Who cares....
     
  7. kg0208

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    Where did I say that all fighters over 30 are on the downside of their careers? Where do you guys get this stuff?

    I said PACMAN's prime was almost over because of his STYLE, not his age.
     
  8. PacDbest

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    Look just how stupid you are!!!

    Pac early as teenager is comfortable at 112 but late in his career at 112 was struggling to make weight. He jump at 122 where he is comfortable & stay there Knockout everybody & became a Champ. Going in for the MAB fight he's just fresh from 122 title defense against Lucero. Pac moved up to 130 just to Challenge Morales. Now find me one fighter who did just the same & have the same result as What Pac did to MAB & EM???
     
  9. kg0208

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    This has nothing to do with what I said you brainless moron. There is no late in his career. In less than 5 years at the beginning of his career, Pacman jumped from 106 to 122. That's not late in anything. He was growing, and like I said, he cannot be weight drained when he loses, but get credit for being the smaller man when he wins. Simple as that. He was growing and OFTEN ended up fighting smaller men in those weight classes who were naturally that weight, not growing out of that weight at a rapid pace, so much so that he couldn't stay there very long and got so weight drained he lost.

    Why would I name another fighter who did whatever you said? Have I disputed that? Ok then....so I guess you should stop mentioning it:deal
     
  10. PacDbest

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    Why don't you start a thread like Floyd on the way to be the next SRR or Your favorite Roy JOnes Jr as Great as SRR???

    I don't think you're getting How Great what Pac has done so far. Go back to the title of the Thread "PAC CAN BE ANOTHER SRR...By Roach" It means he can be Coz of what he's done & the future looks Bright & winnable for Pac.
     
  11. Executioner

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    Even Pac himself wouldnt agree with your bizarre, outrageous, needless nuthugging
     
  12. kg0208

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    And I am so sick of mentioning how he moved from 106 to 130 and dominated and no one else has done anything like that.

    First off, he won no titles at the 108 weight class. He lost one of his fights at 112. He barely fought at 112 and nearly always weighed over the limit. In less than a year of fighting, he had already had his first fight over 112. So he didn't ever feel comfortable there. A year and a 1/2 after his debut, Pacman had fought over the 115 weight class. So don't give me that crap....he was fighting smaller guys and if I can, I will find his hydrated weights to prove it. So what you said was CRAP.

    As far as no one doing what he did. At that weight class? No...

    But let me tell you this. Roy Jones fought at 154 in his debut. He later won a HW belt. That's moving up 46lbs. Hearns fought at 147....he won a title at 175, 28lbs north. Duran started at 122 and won a title at 160, thats 38lbs.

    You get my drift? Moving up that far in weight is NOT unprecendented.
     
  13. kg0208

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    See you are stupid. You can't read can you? I said in THIS thread that PBF is no where NEAR SRR. So why would I start a thread about it? And Jones is FAR greater than Pacman...so lets keep him out of it.

    No one here mentioned PBF until YOU did. So perhaps you should start a thread about him. I don't think you get how great the OTHER fighters are that you constantly downgrade so you can say Pacman is better than they are.
     
  14. stuistylee

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    exactly my thoughts when i saw the title of the thread...pac doesnt make my top 30 atg just yet
     
  15. PacDbest

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    Are you telling me Pac stayed at 112 to take advantage of his size??? How can you explain his KO streak at 122?? Why is it He's still have KO Power at 126 & 130??? I thought he's a small 130 pounder??

    I won't mind bringing Names of my Favorites Hearns & Duran they truly does become successful at the higher weights & Real Macho Top ATGs. Is that mean Pac is on their League already??? For me He's almost there, once Pac Cleaned up 130 he'll be there.

    ROy Jones Jr??? Did he really fight the best 154- Heavy of his time???
    He beat the Slowest & the weakest link of Heavyweight Titlist in Ruiz. Why didn't He Challenge the Klitchkos??? Why didn't he stayed at Heavyweight??? Did he KNocked out Ruiz???

    For Comparison Pac beat the Best at 126 & 130 & that is by KNockout!!! And he stayed there at the Highest weight & still trying to fight the best. And he still might be moving up again it he ran out of Great fighters at 130. And he Haven't been Knockout nor Knockdown on his last 2 weight Classes. How about that for Bragging Rights???
     
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