Pacquiao could pass Floyd on the ATG list

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  1. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Wrong those polls by the ring and espn were made up of various writers and historians.sorry to inform you what they say matters much more than you. Lastly pacs own trainer said pbf was the best fighter of the era that right there tells you everything you need to know.
     
  2. thatguy

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    That's bull****. Mayweather is considered the greatest defensive fighter of all time! Then look at his offence in his prime. How you could consider someone "greater" than someone who is better than them in every way and also lost to this other undefeated fighter? Anyways... Mayweather built himself a name and rep that will last a long time.. most people have already moved on from Pac.. People would rather see May vs Mcgregor FFS..
     
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  3. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    The problem is he's not beating any of those guys . I would pick all 3 to beat him
     
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  4. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Pacs fans used to be the worst. You're considered one of the few leftovers from Pacs career. Friend to the end lol...
     
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  5. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    You continue to confuse greatness with who is the best. You have to be an absolute jackass of monumental proportion to not admit that Pacquiao fought better fighters than Mayweather did. And he has a better resume than Floyd. If you can't acknowledge that then there's no point.
     
  6. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    He didn't have a better resume than Floyd lmfao... And we count ko losses as well as great victories. That's the part that you forget when it comes to Floyd and Pac. The difference between Floyd and Pac is simple. The "will" to win. Floyd never got ktfo, he refused to lose, and he never quit in a fight. He wanted to win every fight and his "will" carried him even under the most harshest conditions of his fights. That counts for something when judging fighters. Can the same be said about Pac?
     
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  7. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    There's not anyone on pacs resume that pbf doesn't beat. Pacs best win is a past it Morales. He's not greater or better than pbf period.
     
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  8. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Pacquiao's best win is the man who beat a prime Morales twice. Now you and I both know that Pacquiao has the better resume and has beaten the better fighters. Only question is do you have enough honor to acknowledge that.
     
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  9. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Pacquiao isn't passing Marquez.
     
  10. Flamazide

    Flamazide Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    You could very easily argue that he already has.
     
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  11. FuMaster

    FuMaster Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No matter who Pac beats, Floyd can beat too. The ultimate test for Pac happened on Cinco de Mayweather and Manny failed.
     
  12. Nay_Sayer

    Nay_Sayer On Rick James Status banned Full Member

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    Leave the Crack alone...
     
  13. Nay_Sayer

    Nay_Sayer On Rick James Status banned Full Member

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    :deal:
     
  14. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Pimp C the weirdo appeals to ESPN rankings which are utter nonsense. This is their God forsaken list:

    25. Terry Norris 47-9, 31 KOs
    From 1990-97, Norris had three separate reigns as WBC junior middleweight champion and made 16 title defenses.

    24. Gennady Golovkin 34-0, 31 KOs
    Golovkin has won 21 consecutive fights by knockout and made 15 consecutive title defenses, both of which are more than any other current champion in boxing.

    23. Winky Wright 51-6-1, 25 KOs
    In his career, Wright won every major version of the junior middleweight title, starting with the WBO version in 1996 and culminating with a 2004 victory over Shane Mosley for the WBC, WBA and lineal titles.

    22. Naseem Hamed 36-1, 31 KOs
    Hamed made 15 defenses of his WBO featherweight title from 1995-2000, the third most in featherweight division history.

    21. Miguel Cotto 40-5, 33 KOs
    Cotto is the only Puerto Rican fighter in history to win world titles in four different weight classes.

    20. Roman Gonzalez 44-0, 38 KOs
    Gonzalez is one of two fighters from Nicaragua to win world titles in three different weight classes, joining Hall of Famer Alexis Arguello.

    19. Wladimir Klitschko 64-4, 53 KOs
    Klitschko made 18 heavyweight title defenses from 2006-2015, the third most in heavyweight history.

    18. Erik Morales 52-9, 36 KOs
    Morales won titles in four different weight classes, tied with Juan Manuel Marquez and Jorge Arce for the most among Mexican boxers.

    17. Andre Ward 29-0, 15 KOs
    Ward is one of two American fighters in the past 25 years to win Olympic gold and a world title in boxing (Oscar De La Hoya). but who was david reid, guess they forgot

    16. James Toney 76-10-3, 46 KOs
    Toney was named the Fighter of the Year by The Ring magazine and the BWAA in 1991 and 2003, joining Evander Holyfield, Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao as fighters to win the award twice in the past 25 years.

    15. Shane Mosley 49-9-1, 41 KOs
    Mosley is the only man to defeat Oscar De La Hoya twice, both times winning lineal world titles (welterweight in 2000 and junior middleweight in 2003).

    14. Joe Calzaghe 46-0, 32 KOs
    From 1997 to 2008, Calzaghe made 21 title defenses, tied for the most in super middleweight history and tied for third-most in boxing history.

    13. Marco Antonio Barrera 67-7, 44 KOs
    Barrera's trilogy bouts with Erik Morales resulted in two Fights of the Year as nominated by the BWAA in 2000 for their first bout and 2004 for their third.

    12. Lennox Lewis 41-2-1, 32 KOs
    Lewis won the lineal heavyweight title in 1998, becoming the first British-born boxer to become the lineal world heavyweight champion since Bob Fitzsimmons in 1897.

    11. Felix Trinidad 42-3, 35 KOs
    Trinidad made 15 defenses of his IBF welterweight title from 1993 to 2000, the second-most in welterweight division history.

    10. Ricardo Lopez 51-0-1, 38 KOs
    Lopez finished his career with a record of 25-0-1 (19 KOs) in world title fights, including 21 consecutive title defenses from 1990-1999.

    9. Juan Manuel Marquez 56-7-1, 40 KOs
    Marquez was involved in the RING Magazine and BWAA 2009 Fight of the Year against Juan Diaz and 2012 Fight of the Year against Manny Pacquiao.

    8. Pernell Whitaker 40-4-1, 17 KOs
    Whitaker won the lineal and WBC welterweight champion from Buddy McGirt in 1993 and made eight title defenses from 1993-1997.

    7. Evander Holyfield 44-10-2, 29 KOs
    Holyfield is the only fighter in history to win a portion of the World Heavyweight Championship four times.

    6. Oscar De La Hoya 39-6, 30 KOs
    De La Hoya won world titles in 6 different divisions, more than any American boxer in history.

    5. Julio Cesar Chavez 107-6-2, 86 KOs
    From 1989-1993, Chavez made 12 defenses of his WBC junior welterweight title, the most in that division's history

    4. Roy Jones Jr. 62-9, 45 KOs
    Jones Jr. was named Fighter of the Decade for the 1990s by the Boxing Writers Association of America, amassing a record of 36-1 with 14 title fight wins.

    3. Bernard Hopkins 55-7-2, 32 KOs
    Hopkins had the longest reign as world middleweight champion (10 years, 2 months and 17 days), making a middleweight record 20 consecutive title defenses.

    2. Manny Pacquiao 57-6-2, 38 KOs
    Pacquiao has won world titles in eight different divisions, more than any boxer in history.

    1. Floyd Mayweather 49-0-0. 26 KOs
     
  15. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    He has a better resume but so what? No one on that resume beats PBF and he has a loss to PBF H2H and several other losses and PBF's resume is good. The Ring ESPN and Roach declared PBF is greater your opinion will be lost in history.