Pacquiao could pass Floyd on the ATG list

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  1. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Up to that point Barrera had 1 win of any semi importance. Over McKinney. He was basically a Featherweight Kell Brook.

    It wasn't until 2000 and 2001 that Barrera was respected as a superstar and likely ATG.
     
  2. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    I speak the truth, Pacquiao is NOT the best fighter on Floyd Joy's resume (Which is far above Pacquiao's resume).

    Nothing wrong with being just outside of top 100. Lots of great boxers of the past.

    Floyd is HEAD AND SHOULDERS above Pacquiao, and even Roach admitted it. If you don't believe that, then you don't really know TOO much about baxing
     
  3. Nay_Sayer

    Nay_Sayer On Rick James Status banned Full Member

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    Barrera was 43-0 when Junior Jones beat him. Please remove your head from your ass...
     
  4. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Can't disagree, just my opinion. I think Floyd is better but Pacquiao overcame more, it's all relative.
     
  5. pincai

    pincai The Indonesian Thin Man Full Member

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    Why people bring stuck on head to head result ONLY when measure greatness. When mayweather wins flyweight, superbantam weight and feathering the title, than we can really compare. Did he?
     
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  6. Blackclouds

    Blackclouds Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not with Pac cherry picking beatable opponents as he has lately. Pac has to clean out his toughest matchups chosen by the people like Crawford, Garcia, Thurman, Spence, Porter for a start to even get in the same conversation as Floyd. Pac is motivated by money first and foremost.
     
  7. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    USADA DID NOT ADMINISTER THE 750 ml of saline
    What was the reason for Mayweather needing 750 ml of saline?? How could the NSAC verify it anyway THREE WEEKS AFTER he received it ?? because that's when they granted it.
    Ask any doctor or nurse what condition a patient needing 750 ml of saline drip for dehydration would be in ?? They tell you He'd be in ICU where they'd be trying to stop his kidneys shutting down NOT running round a boxing ring for 12 x 3 min rounds
    As for " dragging Mayweather's name through the mud" To do so they'd have to "drag" USADA's & the NSAC's through it too because they both were in the corruption up to their asses
    Wise up & see the roses
     
  8. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Wrong !!!!!!! Floyd did lose two fight but he got the benefit of Vegas decisions that robbed both Castillo & Maidana Plus Mayweather NEVER beat Pacquaio in a FAIR FIGHT !!
     
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  9. Flamazide

    Flamazide Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    That is the silliest thing about this argument to me. Pacquiao has done more and looked better while doing it. It isn't like Mayweather and Pacquiao's careers started at 147 which is all people seem to be looking at now.
     
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  10. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Funny how you guys quote Freddie's words as gospel when it suits you but ridicule his words at other times isn't it ??
     
  11. pincai

    pincai The Indonesian Thin Man Full Member

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    Exactly my point. I generally have no issue with mayweather rank higher but I just like to point out that it is not as straight forward as it seems. It is certainly open for debate.
     
  12. FuMaster

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    You guys ridicule Roach when he said he was suspicious of Ariza shakes. I think Freddie is the most honest guy of all trainers. He says it how he feels right or wrong. Roach is right mos of the time. The only thing he got wrong was believing Pac could beat Floyd. I think deep in his heart he knew Pac couldn't but what can he do? He gets paid by Pac. He was pretty much in awe in the Mayweather vs Pacquiao fight and did not have much advice for Manny. Everyone can beat Floyd until they get in the ring.
     
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  13. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    C'mon man be honest On may 2 2015 Pac never stood a chance. He was fighting Floyd. the NSAC, USADA & Vegas officials after being sabotaged & denied his Toradol shot by the NSAC , forced to fight injured in pain. BTW that's the same NSAC that let Mayweather submit a TUE request for that IV fiasco THREE weeks AFTER he'd received it & GRANTED IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Stinks Bad doesn't it
     
  14. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    If he keeps fighting for a long time and accumulates enough wins over great fighters to warrant it, yeah, of course he COULD. I mean, the same is true for you and myself. Seems an obvious thing to say. But if you're a betting man...
     
  15. nuttzman

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    INDEED....