Pacquiao could pass Floyd on the ATG list

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Sunchild78, Jan 18, 2017.


  1. FuMaster

    FuMaster Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,910
    1,063
    Jun 10, 2016
    Pac NEVER stood a chance. We agree on that. The rest of your argument is as believable as Margarito's innocence.
     
  2. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,738
    1,302
    Jul 21, 2010
    i currently rate Mayweather higher on the strength of his victories coming over guys coming off impressive wins compared to Pacquiao fighting guys coming off impressive losses, saying that I think if Manny can beat say a Crawford or Garcia-Thurman winner I'd probably put him ahead
     
  3. ZODIUS!!!

    ZODIUS!!! The certified boss banned Full Member

    2,038
    2,037
    Nov 27, 2016
    Manny is already ahead of Floyd
     
    pincai likes this.
  4. LondonRingRules

    LondonRingRules Boxing Junkie Full Member

    10,519
    1,130
    Nov 5, 2011
    Who is the best fighter on floyds resume?
     
  5. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

    13,452
    2,990
    Mar 4, 2014
    If someone wants to say Mayweather is better, then I don't really mind.
    If someone dares say Mayweather is greater, they are scum of humanity and dumbasses.
     
    OvidsExile and rathalos like this.
  6. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

    46,772
    15,890
    Apr 14, 2009
    In that case as Tony was 100% innocent Then my post must be 100% accurate. If you do not agree provide one iota of PROOF!! not lies & accusations . No one has yet
     
    tinman likes this.
  7. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,744
    975
    Feb 5, 2009
    ATG rankings are quite subjective, so I can understand why some people think Manny is already ahead of Mayweather Jr in the rankings.

    On the flip side, I can see why Mayweather would be lauded as the greatest fighter of his era and several notches above Pacman in the ATG rankings. The criteria varies greatly and there's a good amount of subjectivity to it.

    You can't just use the idea that FLoyd beat Pacman so that should automatically put FLoyd ahead of him. Saddler beat the great Willie Pep several times and I don't know anyone who would rank Sandy ahead of Willie.

    Personally, I have Mayweather in my top 20 and Pacman hovering inside my top 25. I have my reasons for ranking FLoyd so highly, but it mainly includes the notion that he's a fighter who would've been dominant in any era, has the look of a 15 round fighter, his all around skills are second to none, and at the lighter weights when he was devoid of any injuries going into a fight, he was a bad man and a nightmare stylistically for pretty much any ATG fighter stationed between 130 to 140 lbs.

    It takes hypothetical matches like him against Hearns and Leonard and Robinson for people to pick against him confidently. Essentially ATG fighters 4 divisions north of where he started from. That should put things into its proper perspective.
     
    pincai and Pimp C like this.
  8. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

    36,667
    29,206
    Feb 25, 2015
    Pep would be favored at 130. Saddler would be favored at 130. Duran favored at 135. Chavez favored at 130 or 135 or 140.

    I mean if floyd goes life and death with Castillo can you imagine what great oressure fighters like Chavez and Duran would do?
     
    OvidsExile likes this.
  9. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

    36,667
    29,206
    Feb 25, 2015
    Margarito is a legend. Came up the hard way. Was fighting grown men at 15 years old. That didn't bother him though. He would go toe to toe with anybody. No quitting, no denying. A true FIGHTER.
     
  10. FuMaster

    FuMaster Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,910
    1,063
    Jun 10, 2016
    And he couldn't beat anybody notable after being exposed a cheat!! Just coincidence right? He fights bums now at his level.
     
  11. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

    46,772
    15,890
    Apr 14, 2009
    But just the sight of him, standing at the table where Floyd sat , made Floyd literally soil his underwear All he did was politely ask " why wont you fight me"??? Watch it on U Tube
    Cotto STILL couldn't legitimately beat Tony in the rematch, even though he only had sight in one eye from round 2. Wasn't till Tony started to come on & Cotto started wilting that the NY doc stopped the fight.
    The only fights Ive seen Tony legitimately lose since Ive known him were to Pacquaio & to Paul Williams in a close decision. Don't get me started on Steroid Shane Mosely !!!
     
  12. FuMaster

    FuMaster Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,910
    1,063
    Jun 10, 2016
    What a bunch of crock, you read so much into nonsense. Floyd being scared of Margarito is laughable. Margarito is the coward having to use loaded gloves to fight. He's such a weak individual that he has to resort to that.
     
    Pimp C likes this.
  13. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

    46,772
    15,890
    Apr 14, 2009
    Actually I didn't READ anything I SAW it. Go on UTube its there for all to see Floyd was TERRIFIED Margarito might hurt him. You Floydettes keep the BS about loaded gloves going To try to divert attention from your idols cowardice
    Like I said produce some PROOF or just admit you have none. Be a man for once
     
    Last edited: Jan 20, 2017
  14. FuMaster

    FuMaster Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,910
    1,063
    Jun 10, 2016
    CSAC! Of course you'll deny it. /thread
     
  15. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

    46,772
    15,890
    Apr 14, 2009
    All the lab that microscopically tested the wraps found in them was a SOFT damp used gauze pad On the pad they discovered trace elements of both calcium and sulphur. Agreed in much larger quantities both are indeed ingredients of plaster BUT What the CSAC failed to add in its report was both calcium & sulphur are also ingredients of HUMAN SWEAT !!!! They only crime Margarito committed was to SWEAT!!!!!!!
    The only person to LIE was Nazim Richardson when he claimed PLASTER BLOCKS fell from them. Why was he never questioned about what happened to them ??? Refute that if you can