Pacquiao + Counterpuncher= Mediocre Pacquiao

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Dunks, Nov 26, 2009.


  1. Dunks

    Dunks Absolute Grandmaster Full Member

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    This is a video of all of the counter's that Marquez was able to land on Pac in their 2 fights. Half of this video is from their 1st fight and the other half is from their 2nd fight with the NEW & IMPROVED Manny......

    The 2nd Marquez fight was just last year and its no coincidence that Team Pac hasnt put Manny in with any right hand dominant fighters or counter punchers as those fighters make Manny's unstoppable work rate very average.....

    Diaz= flat footed, no defense, no right hand, stood right in front of Pac
    DLH= Flat footed, left hand dominant, no defense, no right hand,stood right in front of Pac
    Hatton= No boxing skills, quick feet, cocks his hand before he punches, no defense, no right hand, stood right in front of Pac
    Cotto= flat footed, left hand dominant, no defense, stood right in front of Pac

    None of Pac's last 4 opponents have had any of the tools to offset his speed, aggression & southpaw stance...

    Marquez (who is the same size as Manny) outboxed & outlanded The New and Improved Pacquiao.....Manny's speed and aggression was nullified by Marquez’s superiority in power punches as he went 122 of 339 (36 percent) to Pacquiao’s 100 of 231 (43 percent). Overall, Marquez held the slight edge with his 158 of 547 (29 percent) output as opposed to Pacquiao’s 148 of 639 (23 percent)......The knock down was the difference...but its funny that a stationary, flat footed Marquez was able to hit Manny easily throughout their 2nd fight leads me to believe that Mayweather will have similar success...if not better!

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    Being that Mayweather is the best defensive fighter in boxing, has one of the best straight right hands, and isnt a stationary fighter...How will Pac's relenteless work rate be effective when a fighter isnt right in front of him and he is exchanging punches with a fighter who's hand speed is faster, who is taller, who has a longer reach than he has, better combination puncher & is the more accurate puncher
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  2. Goose

    Goose Russian oligarch Full Member

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    pacman has greatly improved since then....and the this clip above is more one sided than Rush Limbaughs radio show
     
  3. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hes improved that much in 18months? I dont think so
     
  4. Vitor Belfort

    Vitor Belfort Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Funny how the mediocre pacquiao still won the fight:lol: If pac is so mediocre then why is void wanting another tune up before fighting pacquiao? :rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  5. Dunks

    Dunks Absolute Grandmaster Full Member

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    Wait...Team Pac said Manny improved in the 4 years since they first met....it was 4 years from their 1st fight & 2nd fight...

    This was before the 2nd Marquez & Pacquiao fight........


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    1:20 of the video he say's....

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  6. venomus_p4p

    venomus_p4p Guest

    U may have a vaild point.
     
  7. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pac hasnt been in the ring with a defensive fighter since his Split decision win over Marquez
     
  8. Dunks

    Dunks Absolute Grandmaster Full Member

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    Never in that post did i say Pac didnt win the fight.....I was speaking on Pac getting out punched, out landed and out countered by an older slower, stationary less defensive Marquez,,,

    Manny threw more punches but landed less and was easily hit with right hands and counters...
     
  9. Dunks

    Dunks Absolute Grandmaster Full Member

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    Improved so much he hasnt faced any right handed fighters:good
     
  10. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Like that video title. :lol:
     
  11. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pac got countered a lot by Cotto. Mayweather would slice him up like a Thanksgiving turkey.
     
  12. Dunks

    Dunks Absolute Grandmaster Full Member

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    the video is truth
     
  13. Dunks

    Dunks Absolute Grandmaster Full Member

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    True Story....Pac has no defense
     
  14. Danny_Rand

    Danny_Rand Slick N Quick Full Member

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    What a masterclass by Marquez.
     
  15. Dunks

    Dunks Absolute Grandmaster Full Member

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    thanks or the superb analysis :good