Pacquiao + Counterpuncher= Mediocre Pacquiao

What did you expect? This is divac were talking about. Bet you he can't prove what he's saying though.

 

I don't get it, why are people bringing up the Marquez fights trying to make Pac look mediocre. Everyone agrees that stylistically, JMM gave Pac fits, but is this really proof that Pac isn't all that good or proof of just how good Marquez is? Sure, Marquez gave Pac all sort of problems, but the fact is even though Marquez had the skill and style that was perfect against Pacquiao, he still wasn't able to beat Pac decisively (or even win at all, depending on how you score it).

Does the fact that Marquez was able to land the right so often prove that Pac is mediocre against counterpunchers? Of course not, it shows that Pac has a really difficult time against elite counter punchers. There's nothing mediocre about that at all. If you go against great opposition, you will get competitive fights. That's the way it should be, Pac can't always look incredible in the ring if he goes against top competition.

And sure, one can say that the Marquez fight is a peek into what Mayweather will do against Pac. Definitely Pac will get hit by a lot of clean counters against Mayweather. But that's just half of the equation, whatever you think, Pac still has the best offense of all active fighters out there. Saying Pac will get hit by counters and straight rights against Mayweather isn't a "great analysis". It's a given and any fan with decent boxing knowledge knows that. The real challenge for all you "expert analysts" here is to figure out how Pac will land against Mayweather and what will happen when he does. Because if slow, overweight Marquez was able to land cleanly against Mayweather, do you honestly think Pac won't?

 

PBF by TKO in 6 or less.

 

Look at Jinkee, she shat herself and couldnt ****ing believe that Pac got the nod :rofl

 

Divac is knowledgable but in my opinion he lets his "preferences" cast shawdows over common sense and logic....but it's clear he has a grasp and understanding about the sport..he just puts a lot of spin on things.

 

Charlie, I'll talk and debate boxing with you anytime......but please, I would appreciate if you dont spew lies or twist around the points I'm trying to make.


Where in my thread did I say Pacquiao won 2 out of 24 rounds?????:huh

 

You can state it that way about the knockdowns, sure.......

......but interesting to note that they did fight 24 rounds, of which the last 23 rounds only one knockdown was scored!:deal


Hillarious the way a Pacfan would put it would make it seem like Marquez was going down from Pacquiao's blows every few rounds........yet Marquez only went down once in the last 23 rounds fought.

Marquez said it best about getting knockdown 3 times the first round he ever fought Pacquiao....."I was careless, and quite frankly did'nt guage his ability to close distance so fast."

I think that in itself explains why Marquez went the other 23 rounds only having been knockdown once.

No shame at all going down against Manny Pacquiao!

 

he won the fight because there is money to be made in making manny the biggest star in asia, and boxing in general, duh

 

18 month is a long time for any athlete. Thank you for proving that you are a poser and no athlete.

 

You got a point he ties up and runs a lot too.

 

Go back and read my post back to you in that thread and stop posting your *******ed lies......

What is it with you *******s that seem have to spin and make up things that a fellow poster did not say????


I'll debate you anytime PH|LLA, I'm here to talk boxing......but what is it with you *******s that just cant keep it honest????

There are already a few *******s in this forum who because of their trolling antics I chose to simply ignore.
I dont consider you a troll, so I'd kindly appreciate if you would keep it honest.
At the very least make an effot to quote me accurately.

 

Pac + Counterpuncher = Mediocre Pacquiao

therefore: Counterpuncher = Mediocre Pacquiao - Pacquiao

Counterpuncher = Mediocre

 

thats not how algebra works.. :think

P + C = MC
therefore : C = MP - P
C = (M - 1)P

... your math is wrong lol

 

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So, what happens if Cotto won that fight? What would you say then? Cotto is better and still has it, and Pacman is just too weak to be a WW, right? Well, all of that stuff are opinions. Opinions are subject to change and that's pretty dog on common. I'll be willing to bet my house that they will change their opinions about Cotto being a shot fighter if he had beaten Pacman.

Pacman beat Cotto by out hustling him, out punching him, and out thinking him. Period!

Cotto already beat Mosley, so Cotto is great for the Pacman's resume. However, don't you worry because Pacman will fight Mosely if the money is right. I bet you he will beat him too. No excuses.

Exactly!!!