Pacquiao + Counterpuncher= Mediocre Pacquiao

LOL, I take it as a compliment that you are avoiding me..........however your Wild card spinning comes to end with Pbf.............that does not make Manny a bad fighter but a complete fighter he will never be and right hands are his achilles heel, he will never be able to neutralize them..........you know it, I know it, Roach knows it. manny gets a big payday and he already lost before so no big deal. You guys might even get a rematch to milk it for whatever it is worth.

 

Pacquaio won and drew against Marquez. Cotto and Hoya have no defense? They might not be as defensively skilled as Mayweather but they're not bad defensive fighters. Pacquaio presentented stylistic problems for them and he outboxed them.

Floyd and JMM are nothing alike stylistically.

 

You're contradicting yourself. You say that team Pacquiao told Marquez the rematch had to be at 135. And then you say that Marquez agreed to all the demands so Pacquiao was forced to fight him.

Where you failed in your attempt to discredit Pacquiao is that the rematch was actually fought at 130, not 135.

 

Pac vs Marquez 3 @ 140, Pac by KO in 3

 

Marquez fought a weight drained pacquiao!!!

 

You one the other hand fail to mention that Marquez had Manny do the Chicken dance, could not finish a guy off with several Ko'downs and could not capitalize on a broken nose.

Cotto never had good defense, ever, he was wobbled in almost ANY fight.

I can guarantee you that Roach would have never let Manny anywhere close to a prime DLH at 147. No way no how.

 

Avoiding you? Homie....I didn't even know you exsisted. I'll take it as a compliment you are following me around eagerly awiating my response to posts I had no idea about.:rofl

Manny is a fighter with Flaws......Which makes him more intriguing to watch. B/c even with those flaws he fights at times with reckless abadon and relies on his own natrual abilities of speed, reflexes, explosiveness and athletic ability to counter the areas where he leaves himself vulnerable.

To say he'll never be able to nutrelize the right hand is like saying Manny will alwasy be a one handed fighter. Manny is always improving.....he had pretty much a clean slate before Roach got him b/c of how raw he was. Manny was a lump of coal destined to be a diamond with the right kind of pressure....or training/guidance.

Manny has all the tools and talent to improve even more and have the right gameplan to nullify the right hand from opponents. Manny could loose to Floyd and that will be fine considering the kind of talent Floyd is. there is no shame in loosing. but there is shame in avoiding challenges which Manny has never done. Floyd on the other hand.......we know he's a great boxer and talent but his resume is falling a country mile short of greatness where is should match the talent and the kind of skilled boxer Floyd is.

And ......PAC can win this fight....I'm just more of a logical boxing fan. Just b/c I'm rooting for PAC to win doesn't mean I disregard the challenge that Floyd presents. I understand the science in boxing and that Styles make fights......although PAC has lost me A LOT of money due to my "logic" in the past...I still have a hard time siding with Manny in this one but know this won't be anything easy for Floyd.

 

You have got to be the most ignorant ******* to date! "the wild card dude".lol. freddie roach? who the hell are you talking about.....man ive been watching boxing since hagler vs hearns bro and i am a pac fan.. can i break down a fight like a pro trainer no. but do i watch boxing tapes on youtube all day.yes! 100% boxing fan even though all these young cats now adays only talk about MMA. Aite yall got to go work..happy thanks giving!

 

Pretty much. His best defensive display was against Shane. Even Clottey said he had bad defense and was easy to hit. Thats why Pac almost jumped out of the stands to get a fight done when they were at the fight. Cotto's defense is leaky but he hits hard as hell and has a good jab.

 

yes and floyd couldn't finish off a guy he out-weighed by 15-20 pounds.

Unlike Floyd Manny fought Marquez around his natural weight.

Cotto does have solid defense, the fact that he's been wobbled so many times has more to do with his chin not his defense.

 

Sonny, I don't mean to enlighten you but but there are more people than just Roach working at Wild card.........................Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family too.

 

nut:nut pac was still a 122lber when oscar was in his prime.

and if oscar was in his prime today, i think there's a high possibility that the fight would be made. and oscar vs. floyd would be unlikely. not a FACT though, coz i know the difference between a fact and an opinion :yep

 

Cotto's chin is not that bad. As said previously, his defense is leaky. Fighters have said it, trainers have said. He is open up the middle through his guard and the way he holds his high guard he does not see punches coming underneath as evidence of him getting caught by Zab with uppercuts on different occasions and the cartoon right hand from Pacman that came underneath. I will wait for all your ******* whining and complaining after he gets beaten decisevly by Mayweather.

 

Ah! here is the post you are refering too..:good Nuthugging is not my fortay homeboy. You do enough of that for the both of us jocking Floyd's coin pouch.

You can be as confident as you want to suggest that Floyd is going to beat PAC the way he did with JMM. It just shows how transparent you are about swinging from floyd's balls. He ain't seen nothign like PAC...who is equal in speed...maybe faster...just as talented and his POLAR OPPSOSITE in terms of style.

Floyd is a master defensive fighter......PAC is a phenom offensively. The two are going to clash and they both are going to present all kinds of new problems for each other. The one who has the best gameplan comingin into this fight and who can execute their strategy most effecitively will win the fight.

I side with Floyd bc his game plan allows him to adapt......PAC has to come in with PLAN A, B, and C and implement them inbetween rounds after getting instructions from his corner.

I do agree that the Bravado **** Manny did wasn't part of the plan and Roach did lean on him a bit.....but for manny it was his way of showing not only the world but himself that he can fight at WW. And I think he wanted to prove that to Roach as well.

Roach is the one who wants to keep Manny at 140 and if he chooses challenges north of Jr WW its at a catch weight to help "level" the playing field for his fighter. PAC is probalby saying he can fight at 147 no problem...but he respects Roach and knows Fred is doing the best job he can looking out for his well being.

 

I would like to see both!

If PAC VS PBF happens first then PAC Vs JMM will have less bearing.

I just want the JMM III to happen to end the illusion of some JMM fans that JMM is better than PAC! I want JMM to be KO for good and send him to retirement thats all!