Pacquiao + Counterpuncher= Mediocre Pacquiao

Cotto is a arum fighter! Shane is a golden boy fighter. The money would be more for PAC fighting within his own stable than out of it. Plush Shane has a style that would be more difficutl for Manny. The cards were stacked agaisnt a match between Shand and PAC from the begining.

Regarding Roach and his comments......take it with a grain of salt. It's all mental warfare. He also said Floyd is the easiest fight out of Cotto, Shane and Floyd. I don't think he actually believes the stuff he says....actuall I know he doesn't. It's all about getting into the fighters head before stepping into the ring. I think it gives Manny an extra advantage mentally over his foe. Hey.....seems to be working!

 

And he struggled to make 130, and still won. He even looked sluggish at times during that fight, and still won. I thought Pac fought horribly IMO against Marquez, and still won. Yeah, Pac mostly punched Marquez with his face, and still won.

In summary for TS:

Mediocre Pacquiao > Prime Marquez

7 titles in 7 weight divisions.

4 lineals

Titles in 4 of the original 8 weight divisions. (Henry Armstrong has 3)

 

I dont know because Mosleys old. My question is this, why is PAC top 20 ATG and Floyds nowhere near. I heard Manny Steward comparing PAC to Ali and when Floyds style is easier to compare to Ali.

How can Floyd surpass Manny in greatness? thats the question

 

when I asked the question, it had nothing to do with Floyd. Once again why fight fighters that have looked like **** in their previous fights. And you fight Oscar at 147 but not Cotto. Why have your last three opponents fight the same style? Left handed no right hand stand right in the front of you and shitty defense. There is a reason, however, it will come in to fruition when they fight.

 

if marquezwent to the body more....

 

Cotto is a damaged fighter? based on this thread esb members
voted Cotto is in his prime http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=169031

 

atsch

don't worry if floyd ducks pac just like how he ducked shane pac will fight him. :deal

 

SO you would rather fight the loser of the two then the winner?!??!

As far as I KNOW! It's ALWAYS LOGICAL TO FIGHT THE WINNER THAN THE LOSER!

If he fought the LOSER (Mosley) and he wins, what will Cotto say?!

PAC are you avoiding me?! I already beat him and you are fighting the loser instead of the winner!

MAYBE the bigger QUESTION IS?!

WHY WAS IT PAC who had the first shot of COTTO rather then PBF who has been a WW for ages!!!

Prior to his retirement there was once upon a time for great names in the WW divison

COTTO,MARGARITO, MOSLEY and WILLIAMS......................................

PBF did not fight ANYONE of them!

and you are questioning why PAC fought COTTO instead of Mosley?!

How BLIND can you get?! :deal

 

you just can't please them. pac just beat up cotto who beat mosley... floyd had been ducking these fighters for years.

 

Because of the excuses we will get after the fight; OLD, SHOT, DRAINWEIGHT, CANT PULL THE TRIGGER.. at least we've got new excuse this time..STEROIDS :good

 

Teddy Atlas stated it, Bernard Hopkins and even Roach himself stated Cotto was damaged goods. Even Floyd picked Pac to win. Damaged goods does not mean he isnt a good fighter, it means he is not the same fighter. (RELAX)

 

Yeah! DAMAGED goods and yet PBF who has been a WW for years did not fight him!

DID NOT FIGHT Cotto
DID NOT FIGHT Mosley
DID NOT FIGHT PW

Istead he opted for retirement to avoid any of these potentail WW boxers!:hi:

 

From what I saw, Cotto looked better than he did in his previous 2 fights. 145 suited him well. He proved me wrong by not gassing in the 2nd half of the fight. Cotto isn't damaged goods. A damaged goods Cotto with a cut over his eye would not have defeated Clottey. He's still in his prime, though not at his very peak. A Cotto at very peak would have still lost to Manny. He still would not have seen Manny's punches. One of my predictions was spot on: Cotto deals well with speed, but not the speed Pac will be bringing. Cotto said so himself in his post fight interview, "I don't know from where the punches come..."

 

I see you rather bash Floyd than answer the question. Whether Floyd fought him or not is irrelevant. That does not anwer the question. Floyd has just stated if the fight with Pac does not happen he wants the winner out of Shane and Berto. My question is why fight a fighter that had just taken a terrible beating within a year, and then had a huge gash and one eye in his most recent fight. Then request that he fight at a catchweight. I wanted a factual answer that has nothing to do with Floyd.

 

LMAO!!!
Yeep. Morales, Barrera, Marquez and most of his past opponents were left handed! :rofl:rofl