Ortiz just beat the undefeated welterweight champ after moving up in weight and many felt it was a mismatch beforehand Hatton beat a feather fisted Mallignaggi, Cotto won a SD against Clottey, Margarito beat a nobody after being destroyed by mosely and Mosely lost to mayweather and drew with mora . . . Not exactly a double standard, Ortiz' confidence is sky high This content is protected
sometimes a fighter coming off a loss is more motivated than ever. Ortiz was coming off a lackluster draw against Peterson when he beat Berto. Cotto was coming off a sensational win over Mosley when he lost to Margarito. Margarito was coming off a sensational win over Cotto when Mosley trounced him, while Mosley was coming off a lackluster performance against Mayorga. So your bull**** about confidence being sky high is bull****. Confidence being sky high can actually hurt a fighter sometimes. And Hatton whooped Malignaggi's ass. Malignaggi was considered the #1 contender at the time. Cotto beat Clottey who was considered a top5 WW. So yea, double standards bigtime. None of Pac's opponents were stopped by someone as basic as Marcos ****ing Maidana. Cotto lost to Margarito who is a 3 time world champ, Margarito lost to Mosley who is a HOF, Hatton and Mosley to Mayweather who is an ATG. Ortiz lost to Marcos Maidana. See the difference?
Ortiz quit against Marcos Maidana, theres a difference. Do you consider Chris Byrd better than Vitali Klitschko? Ortiz didnt want to take punishment that night and quit then came back drawing with peterson who just knocked out some hot prospect aswell as redeeming himself and getting back up to beat Berto and if not for the Point deduction and the missed knockdown Ortiz would have won by a wider margin. and seriously? Clottey? im a big Cotto fan but he hasnt been the same since Margarito, Cotto would dominate Clottey in his prime but hes ruined. he couldnt even stop Mayorga until the freak thumb incident in the 12th. Im not a ***** before you ask, Im a fan of both Mayweather and Pacquiao and despite not fighting as frequently as Pacquiao his recent opposition beats Pacs and fought the fighters pac beat when they were fresher Mayweather Mosley - - - - - Pacquiao Mosley - Mayweather Mayweather Marquez - - - - - Pacquiao Marquez 3 - Mayweather Im talking about the welterweight Marquez Mayweather Hatton - - - - - Pacquiao Hatton - Mayweather Mayweather Delahoya - - - - Pacquiao Delahoya - Mayweather
. "Ancient" or not, it's still the same logic. Going by what you said, players are shot if they lost and took a beating in a prior fight. Morales kicked Pacquiao's ass badly. Is Pacquiao shot/past his prime then? And ****.. Maidana made Ortiz quit. You saying Floyd is fighting a shot fighter? MORON.:hi:
I think those leftovers were ironically avoided and feared by some who claims they are better than Pacquiao. Easy said than done in this sport. :nono
Pacquiao is a linear champion in 8 divisions, fighter of the decade, platinum records, pimp hand strong, really undefetead and you have the nerve to say he's not #1!!!!!!! Nonito Donaire is a very good fighter and an under rated scoring judge but he should not be #1 until Manny retires. He'll probably win a Lightweight title but no way does he surpass Manny in legacy because its impossible!
Come on man, no one really counts those. We've explained those "L"s (should really be changed to NCs) a bunch of times already.
Pac/Floyd hasn't happened yet. You know the drama surrounding that. So aside from Floyd, name 3 or 4 fighters around welterweight/jr welter who Pac should have fought and who can beat Cotto, Margarito, Hatton and Clottey (heck even Mosley)around the time Pac beat them and in the same dominating fashion that Pac did. Who you got? Berto? Bradley? Alexander? Maidana?