Pacquiao Had No Right to Walk in 2010 From The Tests

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  1. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Looks that way.
     
  2. PaoloMirani

    PaoloMirani Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You're not wrong, but just lacking any rhyme and reason. Splits, irregardless of who gets the bigger share should be representative of each guy's drawing power and economic weight. Note, i didn't say how much exactly the purse Pacquiao comes home with....rather the $$$ each guy is responsible for. It's really ECONOMICS101, how much each guy's generate in money streams directly or indirectly....supply(the fighters) and demand (their popularity). Even if technically Floyd pulls bigger numbers...the split should be proportional in correlation to what Pac pulls in. You still following Turbotedious? So what Floyd is proposing, isn't exactly (not by a longshot) proportional to that ratio. PPV buys is the obvious metric here....if you go by their last 2 fights (not counting Cotto/Floyd), Pac actually has been outselling Floyd. Yet floyd here thinks strictly in black and white. He's saying he outrsold Pacquiao on aggregate so in his lil world he can dictate financial terms without actually considering how much Pacquiao brings into that figurative pot. So can't you see how ridiculous it is for Pacquiao to agree to no share of PPV revenue, when in all likelihood he'll be responsible for most if not a tremendously huge chunk of the money that this event will generate?

    PS--the reason people are ignoring you is that you're asking questions in which the answers are painfully obvious yet you present them as if they still are part of the grand scheme of things. I mean ****, this whole thread is about things that went down in 2010 as if that matters now. What happened in 2010 isn't the bs that's holding up the fight now. Kapish?
     
  3. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    He had the right to do whatever he wanted.

    He just has to live with the fact that everyone knows he is a PED user and because of that, would not take a fight with the best fighter during Pacquiao's career.
     
  4. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    I've already admitted that neither side wants the fight anymore. But it came closest to happening when Pacquiao walked in 2010.
     
  5. bloomstombs

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    Should anyone trust this corrupt commission , that has no accountability, that allows corruption to run rampid amongst the sport?
     
  6. Round1gymDC

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    he wasn't done cycling at the time
     
  7. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Actually....Floyd threw out a load of accusations and defaming comments that were never substantiated in any way before his demands of his brand of testing.

    Afterwards PAC of course didn't agree and then threw out the just as ridiculous weight penalty for coming in over 147...should the fight happen.

    The big that caused the hold up was nothing more than the interesting way Floyd decided he'd conduct negotiations in an attempt to secure his biggest fight ever.

    Most business men know that starting off negotiations with mud slinging, accusations and insults usually don't end up well and is counter productive.

    To top everything else off Floyd came in with demands that were unprecedented in boxing. It's like someone punching you in the face and then that person asking for you to pay for dinner.:lol:
     
  8. PaoloMirani

    PaoloMirani Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's a matter of opinion isn't it? Personally, I believe if Floyd was reasonable on the financial arrangements then we coulda had a fight in May 5th. Think about it, let's say Floyd wasn't such a greedy ******* and let Arum (a guy Pac is contractually oibligated to) in on the promotion, work out an agreeable split representative of each guys economic pull.....then there'd be too much momentum for there not to be a fight. In layman's terms, if Floyd wasn't such a greedy diva *****, we could've had a fight last month.
     
  9. bald_head_slick

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    I don't even think that is true.

    One side never wanted the fight. They were unreasonable then. They are unreasonable now. Who are they? Team Pacfraud.

    The same guys who walked away from testing, a 14 day cut off, and a 50/50 purse split are now the same guys walking away now that more facts on Pac's revenue are known.

    Pac's numbers show he isn't ni Maywweather's galaxy on income. Pac will EASILY have his highest payday ever with Mayweather. No way in hell does Pac deserve 50/50. To stand on that as your reason for not fighting is to show you don't want to fight at all.
     
  10. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Arum said they couldn't do May 5th, they could only do June. Forget the phonecall between Floyd and Pac after that because that was nothing but a pissing contest.
     
  11. boxon123

    boxon123 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you are a fighter that claims to be better than SRR why would you avoid every fighter of your era that was in peak form? That's right Jr is a Business man . Tell me you wouldn't have like see Jr fight Paul Williams ,Margarito and Pac when they where the Top WW's. We are talking about 2005 to 2009. Jr always walked away or retired. Some think he went off cycling with his Buddy 50cent.
     
  12. Jack

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    Mayweather had no right to accuse Pacquiao of cheating. He had no reason to suggest it and Pacquiao was well within his rights to refuse.
     
  13. bald_head_slick

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    Form so "peak" they won't drug test. :blood

    Riiiiight. :bart
     
  14. macho_grande

    macho_grande "I'll never get over" Full Member

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    Explain this. Why did Manny originally ask for a 30 day cut off for blood testing.

    But happily took a blood test 24 days before the Hatton fight?

    Fact is, if Manny agreed to ODST at the very beginning, the fight would have happened.

    That is beyond doubt
     
  15. Jack

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    As for the 50/50 argument, Pacquiao deserves more than what he was offered. Past superfights have had one huge draw and one lesser draw. Pacquiao may be slightly less of a draw in America but is bigger globally. He deserves 50%.