Pacquiao has had everything his own way up until now...

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  1. s23041983

    s23041983 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This thread is mainly for the people who think Pacquiao would trounce all over Floyd Mayweather...

    We all seen how well Mayweather reacted to almost being knocked out against Mosley. He instantly raised his game, didnt run away and from then on, Mosley barely got to hit Floyd. His speed, ring IQ and footwork was too much for the bigger Shane Mosley and you could see the frustration in his face. Floyd was able to impose his will on Shane by staying only just inside his range, then when Mosley would throw Floyd would step back and counterpunch him, or at times clinch and punch his way out successfully.

    Now ever since the Marquez 'win', Manny Pacquiao has had everything his own way in my honest opinion. Diaz, De La Hoya, Hatton, Cotto and Clottey where all there to be hit. Speed beats Power EVERYTIME so its no surprise that someone like Pacquiao, who has both speed AND power, would deal with them the way he did. Cotto is probably his best win because everyone thought, including me, that Cotto would be too strong for him but like i said, speed beats power!

    ...how will Manny Pacquiao react when he cannot hit Floyd as well as he could hit these other guys? Sure he will land on Floyd from time to time, but he wont land a 2nd, 3rd or 4th in a row. Floyd is just too good. Manny is a fantastic combination puncher but thats one thing he wont be able to use on Floyd so that means he has to try and outbox him. Come on now, even you Pacquiao fans know how unlikely that is.


    If the fight ever comes off, im picking Floyd by late stoppage due to Mannys frustration setting in, which will cause him to lose his focus, which will cause him to lose his stamina in the late rounds!
     
  2. daredevil1989

    daredevil1989 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    amen to that. I saw an interview with roach around about the time cotto vs pac was first mentioned where he said he likes to have the final say on who pac fights because he knows the styles he looks good against. Wish i could find it as it lifts the veil off pac a little.
    I do agree the last few fighters hes fought have been made to order for him without a doubt. He loses heavily to floyd IMO
     
  3. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Does it not work the other way though, S982838743737030?

    Ever since Floyd Mayweather's victory over Oscar De La Hoya he's faced and defeated the following men...

    Ricky Hatton
    Looked poor in his only previously fight at 147lbs and could often be described being defensively inept and sluggish. Floyd had a field day countering the incoming Ricky, who won most of his fights at 140lbs not only as a result of his abilities as a fighter, but his superior strength and size.

    Juan Manuel Marquez
    After his lay off, Mayweather had Marquez come up two divisions from Lightweight, and as a result, Marquez looked soft in the belly, and his hand-speed had depleted significantly. Mayweather beats Dinamita at whatever weight they fight at, but Marquez has been struggling at 135lbs with opponents, what makes people think he was even a shadow of what he was at Welterweight? ...Mismatch.

    Shane Mosley
    I'll keep it short and sweet. 38 year old veteran who hadn't fought in 14/15 months.

    Floyd hasn't been defying the odds either and will face against Manny something he has never faced in his entire professional career. The combination of power, speed, and mobility from a fighter at the peak of his career.

    How will Floyd react when he has someone with comparable handspeed with him throwing combination's for the best part of 12 rounds?
     
  4. artofwar

    artofwar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    floyd aint getting no late stoppage that is absurd. pac will rack up the points the way he did against clottey, i dont see how floyds punchoutput or overly cautious style can stop pac especially if pac takes his shots bangs his gloves and throws 5 in response.he may not land as many clean punches but he will get rounds through activity.
     
  5. BrooklynMumin

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    hard to do that when someone is punching you in the face and theirs been nothing you've been able to do about it all night and especially if you cant land clean on him. Better check Mayweathers resume' he limits everyones output and makes even the most efficient fighters look like a retiree.:deal
     
  6. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Floyd hasn't faced anyone nearly as good as Manny Pacquiao...his resume is irrelevant.
     
  7. artofwar

    artofwar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    sorry dude but i have seen enough of floyd to know that when he is facing a legit threat that is not blown up or old he has problems. hell even hatton was connecting on his ass for the first 6 rounds. now put pac into the mix with the southpaw,speed,angles and power, you get a floyd with a lot of problems.
     
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    Hatton gave Floyd some early problems because he can close distance well where as some one like Manny doesn't really do this he kind of lunges. Even when Ricky resorted to lunging he eventually ended up kissing the ring post.
    The south paw stance of Manny is nt quite significant because of Floyd reach advantage and Manny doesnt really stay a true South Paw in the sense of being slick. A south Paw slugger is much easier to deal with. Quote me please " when this fight happens it will have bear resemblence to Mayweather vs Marquez."
     
  9. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Cheers for the analysis Brooklyn...you neutral you. :D
     
  10. artofwar

    artofwar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    thats a joke. pac has the speed to close the distance thats exactly the difference between him and floyds pas opponents. i only wish floyd was as confident as u because this fight would be signed already, but floyd is smart unlike u *****s he knows this is the biggest fight of his career.

    pac floyd will be like floyd marquez. hahaha. a bloated marquez with the style perfectly suited for floyd who has no power or speed at that weight. u talkin rubbish bro.
     
  11. SouthpawSlayer

    SouthpawSlayer Im coming for you Full Member

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    im a neutral but this fight spells danger for manny, i see a stoppage for floyd between rounds 4 and 6

    manny is there to be hit, offensively manny is unbelievable defensively he is terrible especially against counter punchers, i dont think roach wants the fight and roach has made it perfectly clear in the past he likes to choose who manny fights and roach has been an extremely good match maker for manny since marquez, mayweather is a style roach knows deep down manny cannot be victorious
     
  12. BrooklynMumin

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    Just being a realist Addie, honestly I've been a Manny Pacquiao fan much longer than a Mayweather fan. Actually I really hated Mayweather when he defeated one of my favorite fighters Diego Corrales. I personally just think Mayweather is all wrong for Manny a fast defensive counterpuncher? You think Marquez gave Manny problems this is a nightmare. And in some way I think Manny's handlers know this.
     
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    :rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  14. s23041983

    s23041983 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ricky Hatton was an undefeated fighter at the time and was actually a very good boxer. He was even a good boxer when he fought Pacquiao and actually started coming into the fight in the 2nd round, getting the better of pacquiao...but like i said, he was too easy to hit against Pac because he wanted to out-muscle him instead of box him, and Pacquiao rightfully KO'd him!!

    Also, why has everyone changed their views of Mosley all of a sudden just because Floyd dominated him? So now hes an old veteran and thats why he got beat? More to the point, why am i not surprised at this statement being made?

    ANYWAY... ill tell you how Floyd will react to Pacquiao throwing combinations. Floyd will be positioned just inside Pacquiaos reach and when Pacquiao throws that first punch, floyd will skip back and be out of range for the 2nd, 3rd and 4th ones and then maybe follow up with a little 1-2 of his own when Pacquiao is off balance due to reaching in to hit Floyd. Now who out of Pacquiaos last 5 fights has been able to do this? :deal
     
  15. BrooklynMumin

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    I agree I sense a little reluctance from Mayweathers Camp, but as a fan and someone who's been watching boxing over 20 years style wise I just feel Mayweather is all wrong for Manny.