Pacquiao-Horn, Ward-Kovalev I, And Golovkin-Canelo: How Do You Rank Them In Order Of Closeness?

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  1. Dfaulds

    Dfaulds Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Haha, man you are wound up! Relax, the boxing world knows GGG won. When you man up and admit defeat maybe then I'll entertain you knowing anything about boxing. :eaea:
     
  2. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    I feel like you gotta be emotionally invested in a fight to really re-watch it, or at least a castillo/corrales, gatti/ward type fight. That's why I only re-watched Ward/Kovalev.
     
  3. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Get out of here son, you're disturbing me!
     
  4. Dfaulds

    Dfaulds Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lol.... :pipi
     
  5. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Scram kid!
     
  6. puncherschance

    puncherschance Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i am not a judge just a fan and i rarely sit there with a pen and paper and "judge" fights while i'm watching them. i use more of a who won the fight overall mentality and then i will rewatch it later and "judge" it, even then it is just an opinion as i realize my own personal biases get in the way.

    that being said...
    ward v kov is a bigger "robbery" imo because of the knockdown and after re-watching the best i could come up with(and i am a ward fan) is 6 rounds for ward which would still be a victory for kov.

    pac vs horn haven't re-watched originally i felt pac won but i could see where judges would give horn the nod based on aggression. perhaps should have been a draw.

    canelo vs ggg haven't re-watched yet. i think canelo won 3 out of the first 4 rounds and i felt ggg deserved the nod but saw how the judges could come up with different outcomes thus ruining the decision similar to kov ward but no knockdown makes it even harder to come up w a clear dominant winner. imo as a canelo fan and is that ggg won it by a round or two. there were a lot of close rounds and it seemed very competitive, i feel the decision is robbing us of a great fight that does deserve a rematch even if the nod would have went to ggg.

    i'm gonna try and re-watch and score canelo vs ggg and score it as objectively as possible.
     
  7. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ggg Canelo was clearly closer than Kovalev Ward 1. Ward was hurt in round 1 dropped in round 2 and went into total survival after that until round 7. After six rounds I had Kovalev up 5-1 with a KD. And the round I did give Ward was 50/50 but since he did better than he was I gave it to him (5th round). Then in second half he did better and was competitive but I clearly gave Kovalev round 10 and I gave him round 12. The fact Kovalev "won" only one round from one judge in second half of fight is absurd. Even rounds I gave to Ward were close competitive rounds that could of went either way.
    So to me that was a robbery.

    Canelo GGG was different I gave ggg 8 rounds which is more a difference in rounds than Ward Kovalev but they played out differently and could be open to more subjective interpretation in my mind. - Canelo was never hurt and never down- and he had more moments of fighting back- Ward never through a combination- to me it's not nearly as outrageous especially because a "draw" is not a win. 8-4 - 7-5 ggg are good scores 6-6 to me is bad but not outrageous. Anything giving Canelo the fight is very bad and 118-110 well - we seen how that is being viewed.
    Horn has the least amount of skill of any of the combatants mentioned but what he did was try from opening minute to win. Attack attack attack. In fighting ugly fighting, He was very game and he was home against rabid fans. Again I thought he lost but that fight was most difficult to score.

    So I won't say which was worse robbery because to me only Kovalev was truly robbed.

    Should of been easiest to score
    1 Kovalev Ward 1
    2. Ggg vs Canelo
    3. Horn vs Pac