Pacquiao: "I Don't Need To Fight Mayweather"

Excellent post.

 

http://www.dca.ca.gov/csac/forms_pubs/faqs.shtml

The actual - Rule in the CSAC rules -

http://www.dca.ca.gov/csac/stats_regs/regulations.shtml#303

 

Pac doesnt want to fight him, we all know that by his actions.

 

The commissioners of each state athletic body sit down together at a table and write a rule and agree to the policy and implement it.

I hear you on the prohibative cost of running random tests etc - But look - I would then put that back on the alphabet gangs.

A loose example: If you have to pay 40K in sanctioning fee's for a fight - Then the alphabets should put aside 3k of that money for testing.

Maybe the rules should only be envoked as Philla suggests - In the event of title fights? Then there is sanctioning fee money that commissions can direct alphabets to set aside money to test properly.

 

http://wbanews.com/artman/uploads/1/WBARulesADOPTEDPUNTACANA2008.pdf

According to this - A WBA World title fight with a purse > $10,000,000 costs the promotor 30K, the Champion 3% of their purse to a maximum of 150K and the same for the challenger.

So in this case - If Manny and Floyd fought - There is $330,000 from the main event
only.

Surely there could be proper testing afforded from that pool of cash, especially if you factor in say another world title or elimination fight on the undercard of the fight.

That way you're not killing the smaller regional shows, but affording the big fights for the big prizes and the major titles a proper level of testing and appropriate funding, and take the matter of the fighters lives out of the hands of neogtions about ring and glove size.

 

Read between the lines. (Sorry about the earlier line. I am a bit hyped.)

"The administration or use of any drugs, alcohol or stimulants, or injections in any part of the body, either before or during a match, to or by any boxer is prohibited. "

Do you think that passage means that fighters can't drink? Hell no.

The numbing agent is injected during TRAINING not during a fight. It allows him to train without feeling the pain. If you half ass box with half ass intensity you need to "rest" your hands. I am sure his hands hurt that much more.

Using the numbing agent in training is not covered in these rules. He is fighting in Nevada to avoid TAXES!!!!

 

Doomed I agree TOTALLY with you in principal. Totally. This should not be something that any one fighter should need to do. The commissions and sanctioning bodies should be out in front on this.

I would even be down for them putting in a financial cut off not a title fight cut off. If the fight is over X amount then either fighter is entitled to request Olympic style testing. Or they could be FORCED into it.

I don't believe tying it to titles is the way as the biggest fights now aren't necessarily guys with legit titles. It should be tied to purse.

 

no it should be tied to titles because testing needs to be done even when the fighters don't have a signed fight. Its really RARE that in a major fight neither fighter has a title on the line.

At the very least when a fighter is moving up the ranks, he has a title at some point or another if he's gonna make it big.

 

... and 2 years ago, even hinting Pac to fight Mayweather, you would be laughed at and labeled delusional by these people.

Now, these same people are claiming that Pac needs to fight Floyd. :huh

.... and if Pac does beat Floyd, these same people again will say that Pac needs to fight Williams.

 

That is the flaw in your logic. The prohibitive issue in all of this is cost.

Guys can have titles and make peanuts. It would be completely unfair for the Bantamweight champion versus the Heavyweight champion.

This needs to be implemented where it is most effective, large purse fights. The momentum to drive down cost can then be spread out as the tests become cheaper.

 

Then Pac's time at WW is a farce. So if he wants to be the P4P then he needs to fight Mayweather.

The way you talk he should have stayed at 140 and cleaned up instead of cherry picking the limited Mexican brawler and jumping up.

 

That's what I've been driving at here.

Again - As you've put forth succinctly - The sport overall couldn't organise a root in a brothel.

If you have a quick look at the PDF link I posted to the WBA on their sanctioning, they break down the fees based on the purse for the title fight - Perhaps the commissions - If they could make some agreement on the wording/rules - Could enact a similar scaled approach where testing of the most stringent kind is bought in when a certain amount of money is on for the purse.

That of course offers shady promoters a potential loophole to exploit, but at least it would be a step in the right direction.

The Albphabets had a bipartisan meeting somewhere earlier this year or late last year (I saw an article on fightnews about it) - And they mentioned talking about a new drug policy - It would be nice to see them take responsibility for it.

 

I completely agree.

You like that loophole? I threw in the shady promoter loophole due to most promoters being shady. I am sure that loophole will tie their hands.

Clean fighters will ALWAYS ask for the testing. Dirty fighters may ask not to test. When a clean fighter comes up against a dirty one he looks that much better AND ties the hands of the dirty fighter forcing him into a clean contest. Giving the clean fighter the mental AND physical edge.

I think all of this speaks on the greater issue in boxing... organization.

 

I was just pointing out how a Pac-Mayweather was viewed 2 years ago.... and I don't think Pac was talking about remaining #1 p4p.

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MANNY PACQUIAO: I don’t really need Floyd Mayweather because what I have achieved in boxing is good enough for me and people know that by comparing my achievements in boxing to his achievements.
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