Pacquiao: "I got a higher pay-per-view from my fight (than Mayweather)"

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  1. Danny_Rand

    Danny_Rand Slick N Quick Full Member

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    of course. But Floyd haters will latch on to anything.
     
  2. Rooney

    Rooney Boxing Junkie banned

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    So all p4p fighters are superstars:lol::lol::lol:

    so donaire, williams, caballero, dawson, hopkins are high rollers in the ppv market?

    :patsch:patsch:patsch
     
  3. Rooney

    Rooney Boxing Junkie banned

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    Its funny they dont like to compare common opponents:rofl:rofl:rofl

    I guess a certain someone should hold off and fight cotto, and see how much he makes. If that's the game they want to play:rofl:rofl
     
  4. threethirteen

    threethirteen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Excellent post.
     
  5. PirateGorilla

    PirateGorilla Active Member Full Member

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    http://www.mlive.com/mayweather/index.ssf/2008/04/mayweather_will_drop_green_fla.html



    "'Ellerbe criticized Cotto's HBO and pay-per-view ratings, and said the Puerto Rican is not fiscally or historically appealing enough.'


    'It has nothing to do with Cotto's ability or talent, because I happen to believe he's a very good fighter,' Ellerbe said. 'I just don't think he brings enough to the table. Right now, he's not a draw in boxing. Outside of the hardcore press, nobody cares. If nobody's watching, what makes the guy important?'"


    He was red hot at the time. Now that Cotto does 1.6 mil with Pacquiao, he's a "somebody" and Marquez had nothing to do with the 1 mil buys. Mayweather and co were selling Cotto short now that he does 1.6mil he's a "somebody".


    I don't even care about this BS, just make the fight. 50/50 is more than enough for both fighters, give the fans what they want. They need put on some better undercards.
     
  6. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pac-Cotto was a goo fight but its irrelevant. DLH-Mayweather-Richest fight in boxing history! Pac can' touch that and he fought DLH too!
     
  7. EricGN

    EricGN Active Member Full Member

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    No ****
     
  8. BOXING/MMAFAN

    BOXING/MMAFAN The Fan Full Member

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    i personally wanna watch mosley vs mayweather more than vs pacman
     
  9. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Most didn't think of this fight with JMM/Floyd a tune up....I DID! But the promotion to the fight had extra time to build being pushed back...then it was pushed back to the Mex independence day weekend...which helped sales. Plush JMM is a bonifide attraction to the Mex fans who are responsible for much of the PPV sales in the US. Floyd had some major things working for him going into this fight and he stated along with everyone else said Floyd vs JMM would beat anything cotto vs PAC did...which they were wrong.
     
  10. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's true but the luster of Ricky being undefeated and DLH loosing to Floyd less than a year earlier definitly affected PAC's numbers....PLUS! After facing a guy like DLH your stock RISES 10 fold. PAC status NOW is different then when he faced DLH and Ricky. Who is the bigger draw now is different from 2 yrs ago. We'll see what happens. but right now I think both are the top PPV attractions in this sport but at the momemnt PAC might be edging him.
     
  11. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Mexican fans are some of the most loyal and biggest customers in the US for PPV buys. JMM had a lot of clout in terms of his popularity and built in following....even more so than Cotto in my opinion.
     
  12. BOXING/MMAFAN

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  13. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    -Pac, in his last fight, did more PPVs than Mayweather in his last fight.

    -Mayweather has been more popular with common opponents -Hatton, DLH, Marquez.


    After considering those two arguments, I think it's fair to do it 50-50. Or do it 49-49 and the other 2% to the winner. Or 55-45 depending on who is the winner.
     
  14. ApatheticLeader

    ApatheticLeader is bringing ***y back. Full Member

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    So now you're trying to justify PBF not fighting Pac? Marvellous, so ****ing typical.
     
  15. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mayweather has the richest fight in the history of the sport and you certainly can't take that away from him. With that said, we need to see the broader picture and understand logically why Mayweather up to this point would always have done better than Pacquiao with PPV when comparing with common opponents:

    -Mayweather was the hottest commodity at the time of the Hoya bout and he's been surfing off that wave since, although it is diminishing and will continue unless he gets himself a top notch dance partner.

    -What makes the difference between 500 000 buys and a possible 1.5 million + buys, is that the casual part-time boxing fan is strongly conditioned and enticed towards buying a fight that is heavily put in his face by a huge promotional backing.

    -We also know that good fights in higher weight classes generally will attract more of the casual part-time fans. That's why today, if there was a bobbin' and weavin' Mike Tyson version, facing a few legit dance partners and with the same promotional tools, he would make the Mayweather and Pacquiao figures almost insignificant compared to his.

    -It's not fair for Pacquaio to compare his figures to Mayweather's against JMM, because Pacquiao fought him without the huge promotional tools Mayweather did and he also fought him at 130. Like I said, it's a fact that the lower the weight class, the less you will attract the part-time casual fans willing to dish out their money.

    -Mayweather deserves all the credit for drawing more in the Hatton fight than Pacquiao did. Nevertheless, let's keep in mind that Pacquiao is not American, he's not fluent in English and he was just starting to move up in the bigger weight classes as opposed to Mayweather whom already had stabilized himself over 135 for at least a couple years....

    -There's no way Pacquiao could have generated against Hoya anywhere close to what Mayweather did for the reasons mentioned above and the fact that, that particular fight was made at possibly the worst economic time since the great depression and wasn't considered very competitive form the get go.

    Now that he's at 147 and starting to be known from the every day ''Joes and Janes'' Pacquiao will only generate more than Mayweather if he is marketed better than Mayweather to the American public.

    Now they are truly on common ground and you can start comparing their PPV figures on an equal and fair basis.