Pacquiao in his physical prime

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  1. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    The most physically dominant Featherweight in boxing history right here. And that's a deep weight class historically.

    If I had to say what was Manny Pacquiao's peak as a fighter I'd go with the Diaz-DLH-Hatton-Cotto run. He had slowed down a little by then due to a long career of wars and turning pro at 16, but he was more savvy by that time. But the raw tornado at 126 isn't that far behind in my opinion.

    His speed and power are out of this world in these fights. His head never stops moving, he throws punch after punch and doesn't even look winded in the least. Could have gone 20 hard rounds with no issue at all. And he's eating Barrera and Marquez bombs like they're cookies. Just soaking up punishment like it's candy.
     
  2. POTUS

    POTUS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He's like Jackie Chan now
     
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  3. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    He was like Bungisngis in these days.

    When that A-side meth was Heisenbergesque.
     
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  4. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    The last of his prime may have been misinterpreted. By 2007, Roach IMO had settled Pac down. A lot! He was accused of having bad balance, to which I never agreed. I saw it as a dude who felt compelled to get the last shot in, regardless of his footing.

    Roach tamed him down, not corrected his balance. IMO he had & has always had sound footwork and great balance. So as a result some of us think he has had some resurgence, not really. Bradley, Algieri, Mayweather, Bradley again & Vargas didn't really accommodate a style that allowed Pac to throw punches in bunches. For the most part they were looking to counter not initiate let alone stand and trade.

    Horn provided us with it, but his inside game aloud some roughhouse tactics and Thurman who wanted to be the bigger man, offered us a chance to see that maybe Pac didn't really lose much. He just had a few years where he went against counter punchers that minimized the chance of seeing the Pacmanian Devil at work.
    What a wonder at his age. Or has 40 become the new 30!
     
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  5. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It’s obvious his physical prime was 122-130 in terms of pure physical advantages. BRB, taller, longer, hit harder p4p, can take the hardest punches, unlimited stamina.

    Now imagine a WW version could KD guys with iron chins equivalent to MAB and Morales p4p, that be like him being able to blitz someone like Danny Garcia, making his chin seem like something that he could easily break. Meanwhile Pac looked like his power had no effect on rios. Then he would be on average 5’9 tall, so no height or reach disadvantage. He would weigh around 160 fight night. He’d take horn and Thurman to 20 rounds. And he can take Thurman power and bang his gloves, raise his hands, laugh at it and ask for more, not talk about how heavy it was after the fight.

    Anyone who thinks that Pac suddenly improved when he went up weight is delusional. His skills improved. His speed relative to opponents improved. That’s it. His chin and power is FAR below p4p. At WW he’s a threat of getting hurt, at FW, JMM and Morales landed bombs on him and didn’t even buckle him.
     
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  6. red_roo

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    What a privilege to watch tho
    Pacquiao
     
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  7. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Him and Sandy Saddler were absolute top 2 physical freaks at the weight. In different ways too.

    Thinking about it, that's a good fantasy match up.
     
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  8. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    I agree that Pac has outstanding footwork and balance. If he didn't, doing the things that he does, he should be knocked down in almost every fight. But he's near impossible to knock down.
     
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  9. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yea Pac in his prime wasnt even close to going down. Let alone being stopped. And he was walking through bombs. He had underrated chin. He was barely even wobbled.
     
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  10. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    His durability, toughness, heart, etc. All incredible. His offensive motor and to keep such a confrontational high work rate as he zoomed up the divisions is stunning.
     
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  11. IsaL

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    Coincidentally those were the years where he denied random testing.

    Not to mention his head grew triple the size.
     
  12. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    Canelo failed 2 drug tests and then pulled out of VADA testing after he looked pedestrian against a severely compromised Jacobs that was crippled by a rehydration clause.
     
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    Canelo fan talking about pac on peds haha.
     
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  14. tinman

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    This. Pacquiaos chin in his prime is underrated. I'm not saying hes Marvin Hagler or Ruslan Providnikov, but he wasnt that far off either. You dont walk through Marquez at 126 if you dont have an iron chin.
     
  15. PH|LLA

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    Pac in the 10 year span from 1997 to 2006 had 27 victories with 25 (93%) coming by knockout.

    By comparison in the 10 year span from 2010 to 2019 he's had 12 victories with only 1 (8%) by knockout.
     
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