Pacquiao is a bigger draw than Mayweather

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  1. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Cotto is a bigger draw than Mosley.
     
  2. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Mayweather vs Marquez did as much as Cotto vs Pacquiao did and almost as much as Pacquiao vs none other than DLH. The fight with Mosley's PPV numbers aren't 100% released yet.
     
  3. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Worldwide, Pacquiao is -- in my opinion -- by far the biggest draw in the sport. Wildly beyond Mayweather's own appeal on the global stage.

    In fact, the only fighter(s) who probably have any chance at all to match Pacquiao's world appeal are the Klitschkos because they are so huge throughout Europe. They seem to be able to fill soccer stadiums with fans for their fights in several countries.

    But as admired as the Klitschkos are in Europe, the adulation for them doesn't seem to be able to match the adoration which 90 million or so Filipinos have for Pacquiao. And that doesn't even include his likely appeal throughout Indonesia and Southeast Asia.

    The tough thing about measuring who is the biggest draw, though, is that some countries are far more wealthy and set-up with a PPV infrastructure than are others. The United States -- home to Floyd Mayweather -- is at the top of that heap, and as such Mayweather benefits greatly in his standing as a draw in the sport.

    If the Philippines were a wealthier nation and had a better PPV infrastructure, Pacquiao long ago would have shattered any and all Pay Per View records, including those of Mike Tyson.

    But it's not. And, similarly, places like Ukraine (home country of the Klitschkos) aren't either, to my knowledge. Thus, fighters who are popular in those kinds of locations suffer in terms of how their "drawing power" is seen because the majority of the PPV business is done in the USA, the UK and a few other (mainly Western European, I think) nations.

    So, Mayweather may not have the appeal throughout the globe of the Klitschkos or Pacquiao, but he is an English-as-a-first-language speaker who happens to live in the largest current PPV market on earth.
     
  4. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Isn't their more Puerto Ricans in the US than PR, meaning most likely around 300k from Puero Rican Cotto fans buying if the figures from the island are correct.

    Mosley doesnt have fans/a nation behind him and hasnt been on PPVs for the main part. Cotto could carry a PPV, Mosley couldnt.

    As for American being xenophobic, well Delahoya seemed to do well enough being from a Mexican background

    Despite this it is still looking like out selling Cotto-Pacquaio and both fights had a 24/7
     
  5. Uncle Oden

    Uncle Oden Respect Guzman banned

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    Jack, spare yourself further embarrassment and delete the ****ing thread.
     
  6. grimlocked

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    By the way, during the Clottey fight, there was a heavy storm in the NorthEast (NJ, NY, CT) where, incidentally, there's a sizeable asian/filipino population. Half a million people did not have electricity. The feds later declared the areas as calamity zones. I had a few friends who just drank themselves out in the dark during the fight that they can't see. It was also not very safe to drive. That certainly did not help the PPV.
     
  7. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    IF that is true than JMM is a bigger draw than Cotto b/c he has the state of CA and TX along with parts of AZ and of course MX.:lol:

    THis is a US FIGHTER in SHane who is a legend in the sport. Casual fans know Shane over Cotto. With that said Cotto's following is large...coupled with his NY fan base he's got a good US following. But to say he's more popular than Shane is far fetched. They are about equal in terms of their drawing power. Their PPV's prove that.
     
  8. Bobby Heenan

    Bobby Heenan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    lets count the people who paid 20 bucks a pop to watch it at movie theatres too
     
  9. CocoJumbo

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    My apologies since ALI & TYSON have.

    Does that sound better? No need to hold the shift ? key for 45 seconds.

    the POINT is, people know who pacquiao is without knowing boxing. Again, great proof would be that he was in TIME magazine.. you know the same one Ali was featured in?

    ALso major corporate sponsors.. Does Floyd have any? No. Pacquiao has one with Nike... Get what i'm saying?
     
  10. nipplefloss

    nipplefloss Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Irrespective of what the numbers are, and I think they'll end up coming in around 1.4m, anyone who says that Shane is a bigger draw than Cotto is flat out lying. Mosley/Margarito wasn't even on PPV because they didn't expect it to do enough business to justify. Margarito/Cotto did over 400,000 buys.

    Puerto Ricans are a sizable portion of boxing fans in the US, as are Mexicans. Boxing fans who aren't a part of that ethnic mix tend not to be particularly nationalistic. Boxing prowess rates so far down on sources of national pride that it doesn't even register. Meaning that most Americans cheer for the guy whose style they like more, regardless of nationality, unless there is a fighter from their hometown or home state on the card.
     
  11. P4P

    P4P Active Member Full Member

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    Maybe we should compare common opponents to see who did better?
     
  12. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There are intangibles which make it unfair though.

    - Mayweather had already beaten Hatton and the economy was dead.
    - Same for the De La Hoya fights.
    - Pacquiao fought Marquez before Pacquiao became the star he is.

    Looking at the Marquez fight with Pacquiao, is like saying "Mayweather doesn't draw because he only sold 300,000". It's irrelevant.

    And the losses do play a part. If Mayweather fought Clottey or Cotto next, neither fight would touch the buyrates against Pacquiao.
     
  13. Silver

    Silver The Champ is Here Full Member

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    your facts seem to be wrong, so you cant really prove your point.
     
  14. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    FU34IN IDIOT...IT DID 1.2 ...AND THE NUMBERS FOR MOSLEY-MAYWEATHER AREN'T OUT "OFFICIAL" YET

    GET UR FACTS RIGHT BEFORE U POST U FU34IN DUMMY:deal
     
  15. Beenie

    Beenie Evolve already! Full Member

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