Pacquiao is clearly the best fighter of this generation

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  1. punch13

    punch13 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    [I've been a fan of his since I saw him beat Barrera and caught his previous fights after that. I was inspired by his determination and desire he showed in losing to Morales, my favourite fighter of the era, but the way he came back and won the rematch was phenomenal. The improvement he showed technically between the first and second Marquez fight was something I've never seen before and I'd be honoured and suprised if I see it again in the future. His dominance in recent years, especially the Cotto fight, has been breath taking.]

    good post, well said.
     
  2. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    This is the first bout of Pacquiao's that caught my eye. Ive been a fan of him ever since, but I think Mayweather also has a big claim for fighter/boxer (whatever way you want to put it) of this generation.
    A lot of people forget what Mayweather has achieved, and write off his accomplishments because they don't like his personality or character.
    If the Mayweather Pacquiao bout does come off this year, assuming both get through there respective bouts, the winner will undoubtedly have a bigger shout for boxer of this generation.
    But I don't think it is as simple as, 'the winner between the two is automatically boxer of this generation.' There are a lot of big bouts out there still. No doubt though that the winners fans will be claiming there boxer is the Greatest of All Time afterwards.

    The award for most improved boxer of this generation in my eyes goes to Pacquiao. But best boxer of this generation is still up for grabs...
     
  3. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    Isnt it a matter of opinion if someone thinks Mayweather is better than Pacquiao???
     
  4. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    Oh well...another person who can't hold a debate without accusing the other person of being ignorant, naive, resorting to throwing abuse, etc.
     
  5. caneman

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  6. MarkSe

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    It's got to be said both are great... as a purist I think technically Mayweather is a lot more complete and a pure boxer. Pac man is way more exciting, but I like to appreciate the whole hit and don't be hit as much as the all guns blazing approach.

    I think if they do meet, May edges it.. although it could go either way. Depending IMO how Mays defence holds up to punches in bunches from different angles.
     
  7. Liam1973

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    I think this is pretty much the correct answer. :good
     
  8. NALLEGE

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    :lol::lol::lol::rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  9. eko718

    eko718 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This mania around Pacquiao is the kind I haven't seen since Felix Trinidad, when he was being referred to as the next Sugar Ray Robinson. Its UNBELIEVABLE how a guy who has been fighting past-their-prime fighters tailor made for his style, who has so many glaring technical flaws can first be considered to be the greatest of THIS generation, much less all time. People are so gullible, emotional and in need of a hero that a person would have the gaul to attach 'best' and 'of this generation' to this mans name. I'll leave it alone with a excerpt from an interview with Mike Silver on doghouse boxing:

    DT – Mike, many fans believe that Pacquiao is the greatest fighter ever in the history of boxing. I get these type e-mails everyday and they simply amaze me. As much as I enjoy watching him blow away shot fighters, I have got to believe that Bob Arum has used the current system of boxing to navigate him to the perfect fighters who fit his style. In the glory days he would have to pick a division and work his way up the division. He would certainly run into boxers who had some boxing skills, much like Mayweather, who would easily beat him. Not to knock Pacquiao, he is just an example of how boxing has deteriorated to the point that someone can circumvent the system by fighting catch weights and make millions of dollars to the point that he can laugh at a 50 million dollar purse and say NO! Agree or Disagree?

    MS – I agree. He has the advantage of being an awkward southpaw which is a big plus in his favor. Years ago there were six or seven Manny Pacquiao’s floating around in the lightweight division. I like his work ethic, he has the heart of a champion, but you are right his skills leave something to be desired. He does not move his head, which makes him very hittable, and when pressed backwards, he moves straight back, he doesn’t move side to side. He has picked up some experience. Many boxers in the old days would have said this is what I have to do to handle that type of style. If you look at his past few fights, he beat Hatton who I never thought was better than an ordinary club fighter. De La Hoya--the fight which brought him to the attention of the public--was forced to make a weight he had not fought at in seven or eight years, he was dehydrated, he was rusty, and over the hill. He should have never been fighting then. To call Pacquiao an all time great is over the top in my opinion. To mention him in the same breath as a fighter like Henry Armstrong, is way out of line. When Armstrong won the welterweight title by defeating Barney Ross, he defended that title 19 times over the following 23 months. And he’s beating up some pretty good fighters. Your readers will think that’s a misprint when you write this article. It’s not, I say again 19 defenses over the next 23 months! I don’t care what you think of Pacquiao, it’s hard to even imagine him doing something like this, it’s hard to imagine any boxer doing this. You’ve got to be careful when you start making comparisons when you don’t really know what you are talking about.


    [url]http://www.doghouseboxing.com/DHB/Tyler012010.htm[/url]
     
  10. blur

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    who is floyd anyway in the welterweight division?
     
  11. artofwar

    artofwar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    he is innocent moron. pac i the best of this era and floyd had the chance to prove otherwise but he didn't so pac is the best. his resume is ridiculous.
     
  12. Slick Rick

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    Probably the exciting fighter of our generation but he's never fought a fighter who's come off an impressive performance, he's always there to pick up Boxers last scarps & that is a fact.
     
  13. PH|LLA

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    he fought Hatton right after Hatton beat the crap out of Malignaggi. That's pretty much Hatton's best win after Kostya Tszyu.

    He also fought Cotto after he beat Clottey.

    He fought Marquez after he beat Barrera

    He fought Barrera after he beat Hamed, Sanchez, Morales, Tapia, and Kevin Kelley one after the other
     
  14. d0pestradamus

    d0pestradamus Active Member Full Member

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    I Would say that Hatton's win over a faded(weight drained) Castillo was more impressive than that ugly performance against Malignaggi, both were there to be taken, at least the manner in which he took Castillo out was more impressive.
     
  15. Slick Rick

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    I don't think Hatton is a great fighter though, He's head movement is limited, runs in to punches & coming up against a boxer with ferocious power like Pacquiao that fight was going to end up a mess for Hatton.

    Pacquiao's most legitimate victor was Barrera in 2003.