Pacquiao is fully justified in saying no!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Uncle Rico, Dec 23, 2009.


  1. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    Since people like to talk out of their ass I decided to go to the World Anti Doping Agency. The test that Pac agreed to is more then satisfactory to WADA’s guideline for anti doping. The blood work prior to the training, the random urine test, and then the blood and urine sample after the fight will detect anything in his system. No where on their site does it stipulate that the blood needs to be drawn X date from the time someone uses the doping drug.
     
  2. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Welcome back.

    and yes that is true.

    Not once but twice with Toney.



    Manny is saying no because he feels it weakens him, DESPITE the amount they take would be replenished within an hour of taking it out.
     
  3. johnnywalkitoff

    johnnywalkitoff Member Full Member

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    Dude, people can't wrap their minds around this ****...there are many boxers who don't **** or jerk off while in training due to the (probably misguided) belief that it drains their energy...This is basically the same thing; maybe Pac's superstition is misguided, but if he believes it mentally then that is his perogative and who the **** does Mayweather think he is: a new sanctioning body. Mayweather's pulling a ***** move.
     
  4. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Totally agree with the opening post.
     
  5. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Well it's not as simple as that is it. Just because one guy is happy to do it, doesn't mean the other guy will be happy too.

    Mayweather giving a test will not affect his mental state in any way. But the same can't be said for Pac. It may sound silly to you, but a blood test is gonna mentally distract Pac for sure. Which of course means yes, one guy will be at an advantage.
     
  6. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    True, I get where you're coming. Good point :hi:
     
  7. TeflonDom

    TeflonDom Active Member Full Member

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    Equally, Ariza could have been making a pre-emptive strike.
     
  8. VanillaKilla

    VanillaKilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    how the **** will mayweather getting tested not mentally affect his mental state in anyway but affect pac????

    What is your logic behind this? Are you friends of both fighters, or know their families or somthing??? Because if not, you are just talking alot of BS right now.

    How is the the test going to affect pac more mentally in anyway than mayweather?

    Do you think Pac ( a man who takes punches to the face for a living and grew up in a ghetto) is afraid of needles????

    People are blowing this blood test **** out of proportion. Its a 5 minute ****ing thing. They take 1 ****ing vile of blood. If he eats a cookie afterwords he will be ok :lol:

    I dont think pac juices, and i think he should take the test to prove his innocence because his recent transformation does look a bit shady.

    Let them both take this 5 minute test, eat some cookies and milk together, and then go back to their respective camps. No one is getting "physced" out of the biggest fight of the decade by taking some silly test :patsch
     
  9. Starched Him

    Starched Him Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    it aint a random test if it has specific dates
     
  10. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Dumbass, Pacquiao’s team have actually come out and said ‘he is scared of giving his sample’!!

    So no it doesn’t require one to know his ****ing family, to see that giving his blood sample will affect his mental state. Ariza has said it! Arum has said it! These people work with him, and know him better than you and I ever will, so if they’re warning us of the detrimental side affects it will have on his mind, then it something we need to consider!!!

    Now like I’ve already said, him being scared of having a blood test may sound silly to you and I, but we’re not the ****ing ones who are stepping in that ring are we! It’s all about how Pac feels, and if he feels it’s gonna screw up his mental game, then he has full right to so say no!

    So to work around this, they’ve offered to do it before the initial press conference, and immediately after the fight. This way, Manny can go about his training and preparation without worrying about a minor blood test. Again I reiterate, it’s how HE feels! Not us or Mayweather! It's him! Pacquiao! Psychological and mental preparation in boxing is a key component for a fighter!

    Now can your simple mindedness comprehend this???
     
  11. Chris85

    Chris85 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    LOL you are talking to a floydettes :lol:
     
  12. mightyd40

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    as far as im concerned if im making that kind of money you can take my blood whenever the **** you want as long as its on equal terms with the opponent
     
  13. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Then its not a ****ing random blood test then is it ****!!! :patsch
     
  14. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    Not sure how acurate that is, But my wife who is in the medical field says its not like they will take that much in which it will have an effect on him.

    if a Blood test mentally wears on pac then he is not a world class fighter, However we know he is world class there for its either they just want to say no so that they feel as if they are not being bullied or they have something to hide.
    Honestly Pac and his people saying no to testing is IMO not a very good sign what ever the reason may be it just doesnt look right. Maybe they are hiding something, again Roach has known about Toneys steroid use before he got busted, and after the fact he played stupid to the press, but prior to the Ruiz fight, Roach, and Foley and J Fortune all openly spoke about Toneys steriod abuse....

    So to me another fighter of his being on steriods wouldnt surprise me one bit.
     
  15. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    But dude, they're not saying no are they are. Just look up Arum's recent statement on the issue.