PACQUIAO is still number 1 P4P FIGHTER!

Even though I believe Pacman is the better fighter and will beat Floyd when they fight especially after the Mosley fight, Floyd beat the man to be the man. Shane was the man at 147 and it was Floyd, not Manny, that earned it. Gotta be fair with this. But I'm confident Manny will beat him and regain his #1 status.

 

If mosley would have put up more of a performance then maybe, but that fight was ****.

 

Do you rank your lb for lb list on accomplishment or on how good they are "pound for pound ?"

 

P4P is a bull**** award anyway, it's subjective you tit

 

sherpokovski's avatar is hilarious:rofl

 

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I have them both #1 and no #2.

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Except that 2nd round pounding he took, Mayweather turned in perhaps his best performance in a fight against his best opponent. What more could you want? We had a feeling Mayweather's talent would rise to the occasion when presented with an opponent who was this good, and it did. And he needs to get into the ring with Pacquiao to decide it once and for all -- blood tests and purse splits be damned. Find a way to get into the ring with the best opposition, Floyd. For the first time in eight years, you did Saturday. You can do it again.1.

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Mayweather’s win over Mosley gives him the best win of his career, and arguably a better win than any of Pacquiao’s, but it doesn’t fully eclipse anything Pacquiao has done for the totality of his career or even over the last couple years. I used to think there wasn’t a debate about whether Pacquiao was the pound-for-pound king. Now there is. Hopefully, everyone involved takes it personally and decides to settle it in the ring. It’s THE fight in boxing.











3. Paul Williams (junior middleweight)
If “The Punisher” seems too high to you, I offer you two counterarguments: 1. He was #4 on my list and a few other sensible ones, and he benefits from Mosley’s drop; and 2. On short notice last year, he beat the man who two weekends ago claimed the middleweight championship and debuts in the top 10 of my list, Sergio Martinez. A rematch becomes perhaps the second-most desirable fight in all of boxing, but if Pacquiao and X can’t come to an agreement on a fight, Williams deserves to figure into the mix. I know, I know, nobody believes he can get to 147 at his height. But what do you want to bet he weighs less than 154 this week at the weigh-in for next weekend’s bout against Kermit Cintron? Anyway, I think he’s stuck at #3 until #1 and #2 square off, or he gets a shot at one of those men himself. (P.S., most of the above is clearly contingent on Williams beating Cintron.)


4. Chad Dawson (light heavyweight)
Except Bernard Hopkins, who has no interest in battling him, Dawson has cleared out the old guard at light heavyweight. That leaves the young guard, and he’s stepped up to the plate – he’s booked for an August fight against Jean Pascal that will determine the lineal, Ring magazine light heavyweight championship of the world. That might or might not be enough to move him into my #3 spot – but if he wins it, it sure won’t hurt. I’m pretty sure I’ve mentioned lately that the win over Tomasz Adamek keeps looking better all the time, but it warrants mention again after Adamek got another nice notch on his belt in April.


5. Shane Mosley (welterweight)
How much to drop Mosley is a difficult question. I didn't drop Juan Manuel Marquez very much for losing to Mayweather, and Mosley fared better against Mayweather than Mosley did. It's tough to say why Mosley disappeared after that amazing 2nd round, but at least a big part of it was Mayweather, who really turned it up a notch in the 3rd and never let Mosley get back into things. It's at least possible Mosley aged overnight, but it's also possible -- and he said so himself -- that being out of the ring since January of 2009 affected his performance. His stamina wasn't where it usually is. So I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt. In part because it's hard to imagine considering putting him beneath the next guy.


6. Wladimir Klitschko (heavyweight)
Everyone knows the heavyweight division is something of a wasteland, but Klitschko has done far too much for far too long and far too dominantly not to get top-10 pound-for-pound contention, with his March win over Eddie Chambers one of his best. Chambers was ranked #3 in the division, rightfully. Over the last five years, Klitschko has defeated eight top-10 heavyweights, plus several more over the course of his career. No one else has so thoroughly owned his division for such a stretch of time, and good luck finding someone who can knock him from his perch for years to come. Really, the only thing that could lead to a slide on my list is a prolonged stretch of inactivity and better available competition at lighter weights. That is, unless David Haye – the new #3 in the division, and the best blend of speed and power at heavy, with a pound-for-pound resume from his days at cruiserweight – can do him in. It’s plausible, but unlikely. And the fight may be difficult to make, given the animosity that’s built up and the strange negotiating tactics of Haye’s team. Klitschko takes Bernard Hopkins' spot, who exits because in the last year and a half, he's merely beaten a too-small and under-talented Enrique Ornelas and a shot Roy Jones, Jr., and he didn't look very good doing it. If he fights and beats a top opponent, he'll be due for restoration to the top 20.


7. Juan Manuel Marquez (lightweight)
As one-sided as the shellacking was that he took from Mayweather in September, and as long as he’s been outside the ring since, I still can’t bring myself to drop Marquez more yet because he was fighting two weight classes above the division where he’s the lineal champion and four classes above his most effective weight. He’s due for a rematch against Juan Diaz in July, where a win which doesn’t get him much in these standings what with Diaz losing two of his last three (and arguably the third, depending on whom you ask), but combined with his achievements before the Mayweather loss, it might be enough to hold off the charging hordes below for a while longer.


8. Sergio Martinez (middleweight)
I’d defended my refusal to include Martinez based on the point that his best win was over Alex Bunema. Yes, he deserved the win over Cintron. Yes, he very well may have deserved the win over Williams, and that he could fight on such even terms with him warranted pound-for-pound consideration. Yes, he looked like a force to be reckoned with. But still. Bunema. And could it be that he was somewhat to blame for not making matters more definitive against Williams and Cintron, a la Joshua Clottey’s near misses? Now, though, with a judge-certified April ass-kicking over a borderline top-10 pound-for-pound opponent in Pavlik, and the middleweight championship belt around his waist, he’s shot into my top 10. A rematch with Pavlik or Williams might imperil (or boost) his standing later, but today, I think #8 completely defensible.


9. Timothy Bradley (junior welterweight)
OK, here’s the thinking on a slight rejiggering. I got carried away when I put Juan Manuel Lopez so high last time around, and my positioning of Bradley is the major reason I reconsidered. Using my “what have they done in the last year” metric, I looked at Cotto, Ivan Calderon, Chris John and Nonito Donaire and saw Bradley right beneath them as ripe for a promotion. But then right above that group was Lopez, and as impressed as I was with Lopez’ win over Steve Luevano, I got to thinking I'd gone too far if you compare Bradley's achievements in the last year to Lopez'. Bradley's beaten better overall competition. He may be slightly vulnerable at this spot since he won't fight again until July.

10. Juan Manuel Lopez (featherweight)
I gave some thought to dropping Lopez a bit more, but I decided to stand firm on leaving him in the top 10. Here's why: Steven Luevano, the man Lopez beat easily, had gotten some very nice work done at featherweight. Luevano had beaten an array of good fighters, and I'd had him as a borderline top-20 pound-for-pound fighter. As for what's next, Lopez is lining himself up for a shot at the winner of Israel Vazquez-Rafael Marquez IV this month, and if Lopez were to beat either of those men I wouldn't give him too much credit, really. If he were fighting the likes of John, Celestino Caballero or YURIORKIS GAMBOA! maybe then we could talk. He's the most vulnerable man in my top 10, once you look at the rest of his potential 2010 schedule.

 

Of course. The matter involves some subjectivity or 'gut instinct.'

But even so, surely you must have criteria to put to your gut.

In other words, what does the 'pound for pound best' mean for you ?

 

Pac is #1

 

People who are putting Mayweather at no 1. are still feeling the euphoric effects of his brilliant performance last night. Compare Mayweather's last 3 fights to Pacquiao's last 3, and you'll see that there is no REAL reason for him to have taken the spot.