Pacquiao Just Committed the Biggest Duck of All Time

Pac has AGREED to be tested in any fashion that the (American) Nevada State Athletic Commission considers fair and necessary, and in the same fashion as any other boxer in any other title fight.

He has agreed to take all of the tests that he took gainst Cotto, Hatton and Delahoya.

He has agreed to take all of the tests administered to all of Floyd's previous opponents.


What he has refused to do, is be subject to a series of EXTRA tests, unprecedented in professional boxing, just because his opponent wants him to.


Why the **** should he be tested more stringently than any other boxer ?

Pac has passed every drug test he's ever taken.

Should he then be subject to more stringent testing than KNOWN and PROVEN drug users like Toney and Mosley ?


Does Berto have more reason to worry on the issue than Floyd ?

Probably.


Will Shane be randomly tested going into the Berto fight ?

Of course not !


The Boxing authorities decide on these matters. Not Floyd.

If Floyd is unhappy with the current state of drug testing in Pro boxing, he should make his case to the boxing commissions, rather than try to change the protocols unilaterally for a single fight.

There's **** all frivolous about it.

Floyd senior has stated unequivocally, without any proof or even evidence of any sort, that Manny is on steroids.

That's known as slander, and Pac has every right to pursue whatever legal remedies are available.

Quite the reverse, There is no logical reason Pac SHOULD agree to tests that are not normally carried out, just on Floyd's say-so.

This sentence is so profoundly ****ing stupid that it defies description.

He just didn't want to fight ?


Is that why he agreed to the fight, agreed to all the usual terms and conditions that are normally negotiated ?

Of course he wanted the ****ing fight.

Who came up with the totally unprecedented and utterly unreasonable demands for extraordinary drug tests AFTER all else was agreed to ?

I believe that was Floyd.

Clearly, if ANYONE wants out of the fight, it's Floyd.



If this were a burning issue for him, it would have been on the table from the get-go. But only after all else was settled, did he mention it.

So who's the ducker here ?

No he didn't think any such thing.

He saw how much respect Floyd gave to the agreed weight going into his last fight, with a lightweight. He simply bought his way out of it and came in where he always planned to.

Pac has moved up a lot further than Floyd in weight and is the naturally smaller man.

He wants to keep Floyd honest on this issue.

And given Floyd's behaviour going into his JMM fight, Pac's move was completely logical and justified.

No, he ****ing doesn't, and I've already explained why.

Why the **** should he ?

That's the only part of your post that's correct.

If Floyd fails to show for this fight, it will be a 'duck of the highest order.'

On a par with his ducks of Cotto and Margarito.

 

Originally Posted by paulfv View Post
Summary: Extended Team Mayweather member Richard Schaefer has been the point man for Team Mayweather's "Olympic Testing Jihad" against Manny Pacquiao. Turns out the same guy, Schaefer, very recently FLAT REJECTED the same or similar testing for another of GBP's fighters, admitted steroid cheat Shane Mosley. Zab Judah had requested the testing be done if the two men were to fight, and Schaefer said "no."

Basically Team Mayweather are hypocrites on the testing issue via Schaefer. The Mosley episode shows they are willing to play the "it's ok for our guy to not be tested, but not yours." Add this to the fact that Mosley's a known cheat and Pac isn't, and you have a public relations hurricane that started up like 2 days ago.

 

I've attempted many times to explain to these people how this "court" case will lead to absolute no where... but to no avail.

I've just decided to let them think this will lead to, and I quote, "Floyd being on the witness stand".

 

for a title? :hi: unheard of dude till 'fire-power'

 

Its hard for me to understand how anyone can see it any other way besides Floyd trying everything in his power to not make this fight happen. This was suppose to be the fight to bring boxing back and Floyd single handedly ruined it by accusing Pac of being a steroid user, whether it is true or not the general public who got wind of it now think Pac is a user and are complain even more about the state of boxing, bad reffing, corrupt judges, now steroids. Casual fans are not gonna comeback with more of the same old. A fighter should be mandated by a singular boxing commission and the terms of the fights should be negotiated by a nuetral party, or something.

 

Exactly what made me laugh my ass off when i read Pac was taking it to court.

 

Hate to do it cause I like Manny much better than Floyd, but I gotta get on this train.

****in' Manny...

 

Actually, it does.

You just don't have any answers for the points clearly expressed within it, and hence, term it a 'rant.'

For a dude who's been to law school, you're not much on arguing the facts and points of the case.

I broke your post down into its component parts and dealt with them, one by one.

You dismiss the whole post as a rant, because you are unable to refute its content.

This is exactly what you said earlier, and is unsupported by the facts.

I have explained to you already why the demands are NOT reasonable and are in fact, unprecedented.

(I expect your sterling legal education has touched however briefly, on the concept of precedence)


Repeating the same thing over and over again WITH NO MORE EVIDENCE THAN YOU HAD ON YOUR FIRST ASSERTION will not score you many points in court.

Is that a legal term in the Lone Star State ?

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You must be a ****in' genius if you know ALL about defamation after ONE year in Law school.

Actually, again, NO.

He stated that Pac was on steroids, and while it may have been implicit that this was his opinion, he stated it without that little qualifier.



At any rate, the lawsuit is the smallest part of your post and, not being a lawyer, I don't intend to dwell on it.

Your main point was that Pac was duckng Floyd.

I believe you have failed to prove your case, counsellor, and in fact, the reverse has been shown to be the case.

I hope you have other skills that will earn you a living, because, based on your performance here, I don't see much future for you in litigation, or any other area of jurisprudence.

 

Bump!

 

This is the truth im afraid.

Imagine what the mayweather camp is thinking seeing how much panic this simple drug testing has caused the pac camp, and also their willingness not to do the blood testing at all.

They thinking hold up i think something is really going on over there. This was just a wind up job but we might have actually caught something!!!!

Pac is acting guilty.

 

Please explain in detail how contractual request are unreasonable and "unprecedented".

 

First of all, BUMP doesn't mean what you THINK it means.


Second, I already explained my position in post # 62 of this thread.

But for your benefit, I will copy the relevant portion on here:

Pac has AGREED to be tested in any fashion that the (American) Nevada State Athletic Commission considers fair and necessary, and in the same fashion as any other boxer in any other title fight.

He has agreed to take all of the tests that he took gainst Cotto, Hatton and Delahoya.

He has agreed to take all of the tests administered to all of Floyd's previous opponents.


What he has refused to do, is be subject to a series of EXTRA tests,

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in professional boxing, just because his opponent wants him to.


Why the **** should he be tested more stringently than any other boxer ?

Pac has passed every drug test he's ever taken.

Should he then be subject to more stringent testing than KNOWN and PROVEN drug users like Toney and Mosley ?


Does Berto have more reason to worry on the issue than Floyd ?

Probably.


Will Shane be randomly tested going into the Berto fight ?

Of course not !


The Boxing authorities decide on these matters. Not Floyd.

If Floyd is unhappy with the current state of drug testing in Pro boxing, he should make his case to the boxing commissions, rather than try to change the protocols unilaterally for a single fight.

 

And how long do the tour de france cyclists have to race for? And they're blood tested after every stage of the race...