Pacquiao Marquez 4 gifs (Pacquiao moments)

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  1. Cinderella Man

    Cinderella Man Deleebr 'eem into mahands Full Member

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  2. jan_fan

    jan_fan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I've seen Pac move counter-clockwise against other opponents, but not against JMM.

    I've seen Pac throw his right hooks to the head/body successfully against other opponents, but not against JMM

    Why? Cause JMM doesn't use his jab often. It was his instinct to move to the other side whenever the opponent uses it's jab against him.

    If you watch those punches Pac landed compared to JMM's, you'll know which landed harder that's because Pac is always in the wrong position, JMM is. JMM could land stronger that Pac. Pac delivers his face towards JMM's right fist just to land his left forcibly. Tell me then who's always been in the better position? JMM

    Moving to JMM's right has never been a right move cause it's easy for JMM to land while Pac has to do all sorts of things just to land slightly on him.

    BtW, pls don't use Margarito as an example. The truth is, JMM is not really that fast but Margarito's punches are too telegraphic compared to JMM so Pac can react rather easily to Margarito even if he's in wrong position. :nono
     
  3. jan_fan

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    I've seen all the videos you posted but the least of the worse things he has done was to move straight-forward on JMM. Everytime Pac strafes forward, he'd still end on in the same direction, towards JMM's right because as you said, JMM pivots when Pac attacks.

    Pac's been obviously trying to find a way to land his left on JMM. But it won't work cause JMM's right comes first when Pac moves forward before he can even start to throw.

    You said it yourself, you couldn't see a gif wherein Pac moves towards JMM's left and throw a right hook (or even uppecut) to the head/body. Why? cause was no intent to attack JMM on that side.

    Those things you said that Pac was moving counter-clockwise plenty of times, Pac was moving away when he should have been stepping-in on him.

    Pac was blind, JMM was brilliant. After 4 fights, we could have seen different types of strategies from the 2. But nothing was really different in those 4. Only same strategy JMM was using while Pac was blindly following JMM's lure. And I'd bet with you the same thing happens when both do another rematch.

    If there was anything I could see what Pac improved in their 4th fight, it was E for EFFORT
     
  4. jan_fan

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    Bogotazo, pls tell me again about Pac's intent to attack on JMM's left side using this gif :cool:

    See how Pac delivers his face when he attacks JMM? There'll be 12345678910 instances where Pac attacks this way on JMM. You call this aggression towards JMM's left?

    Now, you'd see why it's easy for me to point out where Pac goes wrong especially where he positions in.
     
  5. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He got ktfo, **** happens in boxing, specially when you're as aggressive as Pac. Can't deny that Pac was winning the fight prior to the stoppage, was busting JMM up. With JMM's new found power and experience with Pac, he timed a perfect right hand and ended it. A 5th bout would still be 50/50.
     
  6. The Akbar One

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    Marquez landed the hardest punch of the round in the 5th. He turned Pac's whole body sideways with a right hand. Marquez probably wouldn't have went down if Pac didn't trip him as he got punched.
     
  7. igor_otsky

    igor_otsky Undefeated Full Member

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    That's what you ***s call Pac's love rinse-wash-repeat. Pac was successful on this on higher divisions because those guys are NOT accustomed to the speed of a lightweight, hence the Pac move will stun them. BUT if you pit Pac against a guy with the same weight he used to be, with the same speed and power and more ring intelligence, added with 4 fights against him, that pac move will surely be nullified. rinse-wash-repeat move has met his kryptonite.
     
  8. Gander Tasco

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  9. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    exactly as he moved to his left and finished him knowing he would be there for the taking.

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  10. Bogotazo

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    Actually, you've perfectly illustrated my point, because in both of those GIF's, Pacquiao's right foot is inching rightward as he advances, not leftward. It's only because he is forced to move first that Marquez then tilts his body and steps his own lead foot leftwards.
     
  11. jan_fan

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    :nono

    Pac is still faster and stronger. You didn't observe well on how JMM got it done

    I'd bet you were only watching Pac doing the action and struggling
     
  12. jan_fan

    jan_fan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Now I don't understand what you're trying to point out.
     
  13. IvyLeagueBoxing

    IvyLeagueBoxing Well-Known Member Full Member

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    ohhhh shiat..:rofl
     
  14. Bogotazo

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    Pacquiao stepping rightward while advancing to attack. Which is the opposite of circling towards JMM's right.
     
  15. LordJomski

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    :lol: