Pacquiao - Marquez III - No robbery

I know we've seen a million threads on this but I dont care . I've watched this fight again . No slow mo or any other bull****, just trying to view it as objectively / fairly as possible and score the effective rounds. Feel free to comment and offer your take without any fanboy bull**** , I'm not gonna even bother replying to that.

1 Pacquiao
2 Marquez
3 Pacquiao
4 Pacquiao
5 Marquez
6 Marquez
7 Marquez
8 Marquez
9 Pacquiao
10 Pacquiao
11 Pacquiao
12 Pacquiao

Pacquiao 115-113


Facts about this fight:

1. Every single round minus the 5th and 11th were close/ fairly close.

2. Compubox has Pacquiao landing more punches in the fight, including power punches.


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Up until the 5th round this fight was very slow paced and tough to score; however looking carefully at who landed the more effective punches and who actually LANDED punches Pac took most of those early rounds. Marquez was laying back too much and being inactive.

edit: Round 1 you could give to Marquez , 2 is extremely close. Giving Marquez round 1 on my scorecard makes it a draw.

In the 5th round, Marquez came on very strong with good counter punching and leading more with his punches. He kept up this momentum until the late rounds where Pac began to step on the gas and pick up the pace. Conversely, Marquez slowed down in the late rounds and by all accounts gave away the 12th.

Pac has a good round 9, 10, and his best round of the fight in Round 11. Marquez gives away the 12th by backing off and Pac seals the deal with a flush straight left hand at the end of the round.


Steward in the late rounds : "Pacquiao is cut and Marquez is not taking it to him, he needs to take it to him more ."

Nacho Beristain tells Marquez in the late rounds that he's winning the fight. Bad advice? Clearly.


I'll challenge anybody to view the rounds I scored for Pacquiao objectively and find a compelling / overwhelming reason to give it to Marquez. The rounds I scored for Pac were based on effective punches and punches landed.

Marquez BEST rounds were in the middle - 5-8. Pacquiao's best rounds were the late ones, 9-12. The early rounds were very slow and hard to score but Pac DID more and LANDED more in those rounds. You could also argue to give Pacquiao one of the middle rounds such as round 7 , but I gave all of those to Marquez.


I won't argue too much with anybody that had Marquez winning as it was an extremely close fight.. but calling this a robbery / schooling of any kind is fanboy bias / irrationality of the highest order. Doing way better then everybody expected is NOT the same as winning the fight.

 

Like I said I challenge anybody to find a real compelling reason to give rounds 1, 3, 4 to Marquez as well as rounds 9-12.

 

I get the feeling people score some of the rounds for Marquez only on the basis of him being DEFENSIVE and making pac miss some of his shots. That's not enough to win rounds, you have to actually land punches. And on those merits, Pacquiao outlanded him many of the rounds which is why he won them.

 

Early rounds were swing rounds. I could give Marquez Round 1 , but 2 could go either way as well. They're hard to score.

9 and 10 I have for Pacquiao, I thought he outworked Marquez and has his best showing in the late rounds.

I use the word 'compelling' bc the fight is so close you to have to provide convincing reason why one guy absolutely deserved that round. I'm not arguing absolutely that Pacquiao won... I'm arguing that he won an extremely close fight, and that it was no where close to a robbery.

 

Marquez didn't do anything in the 12th. Pacquiao landed a flush left at the end of the round.


You have Marquez winning round 11, which is Pacquiao's best round in the fight.