Pacquiao - Marquez III - No robbery

You can't take a popular champ's title away by not punching. Pac was the champ and he made the fight. I do think he got outboxed, but Marquez simply didn't throw enough to win rounds. I had it 7-5 Pac and at worst a draw.

 

You're the one seeing that "aura". That's your problem. Personally, I only see one guy controlling the dance and the other struggling to keep up.

 

I heard if you watch it in slow motion, with the volume down, on a 13" black and white TV, standing on one leg, while rubbing you belly in circular motion and tapping your head and with sunglasses on...you can see Pacquaio really won...

 

Marquez won by atleast 2 rounds.

 

Watch the British telecast, which had Khan (who appears to be in utter disbelief during the telecast) as one of the commentators. I watched this and the HBO telecast...like night and day. Better still watch with the sound off. I'm not sure about him 'dominating' the fight. But, by the rules for scoring rds (clean, hard punching, ring generalship, effective aggression, and defense), Marquez won more rounds, IMO (and a LOT of other people's opinions).

 

Tried it but i still had Marquez by 2.

 

I watched that british telecast too. Thought I had 350 bucks in the bag with my bet against Pac. Then Arum and the judges stole it.

 

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Rd. 11 was Pac's best round??? You're shitting me right? JMM ROUND ALL THE WAY.

 

As I scored it round by round, I wound up with either Marquez up by a round or two, or Pacquiao managing a draw. I can try to give it to Manny if I want to be generous but it won't be by much. He did better when I rewatched thus the fight looked closer, but that's about it.

 

There's really no way you can legitamtely justify a Pacquiao win.

It's sad and pathetic how obvious the HBO crew made it seem to real boxing fans who know the rules that they new the fix was in...As the rounds went on they were desperately trying to justift a Pacquiao win by lying to the viewer on how fights get scored...

You had all three ******s, Ledderman, Stewart, and Lampley telling the viewer that judges score on "volume", "activity", "busier", when that is not a scoring criteria...

...Like when according to Compubox they both landed 17 punches in one round, Ledderman goes on to say that Judges and himself will use other criterias to score a round, like who threw more, who has more bruises...WTF???!!!! How about using the "Effective punches" rule you ****ing morons!! In that round they may have landed an equal amount of punches, but JMM were more effective and harder..!!

Also you see their bias when they keep saying that Berenstain is telling JMM he is winning...as if that is making JMM not fight to win...??? WTF did they mean that Nacho shouldn't be telling his fighter that...Its not like it mattered because JMM was still kicking Pac's ass....HBO was just trying to fool the casual viewer into thinking Pac was doing better, and then justify the robbery.

I lost all the very little respect I had left for Ledderman in that fight...His scorecard was absurd.

 

effective punching is not necessarily how hard the punch is. If the punch is hard but the fighter has a great chin and takes it very well, it might be less effective than a punch that is less hard but lands on someone with a weaker chin and the opponent does not take it well and is hurt.

The punch that causes more damage is more effective. Not necessarily cuts and bruises but damage. In that sense Pac's durability and ability to take a shot so well works in his favor on scorecards as it should.

 

Hey let me copy and paste the same exact things I said in the other 6 threads about this while you do the same thing :zzz

 

On the poll HBO presented, the following week after the fight-

88 percent of fans had JMM winning the fight or a draw.

 

The greatest indicator that this fight was not a robbery is how disparate the scorecards are even among those who scored it for Marquez. There is no real consensus on which rounds Pac won and which ones Marquez won, even looking only at the scorecards of those who thought Marquez won.

 

I can testify that this does not work, in my experience's the only way to get a Pacquiao outcome is if you watch Pacquiao vs Mosley and pretend Mosley is Marquez, even then it's close on my card.