Pacquiao: Mayweather didn't want the fight

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Gander Tasco, Feb 20, 2012.


  1. Toontoon

    Toontoon Boxing Junkie banned

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    What is there to negotiate?!:lol:

    You're just firing off questions that whatever I answer with you still keep coming back to the 50/50 and have refused to blame Bob Arum at all for not coming to the negotiating table to make this fight.

    We found out Floyd was fighting Cotto?! Both of them were negotiating with him, it wasn't until he refused to come down that Pacquiao settled for Bradley.

    You make it sound like Mayweather ran off and found an opponent while Pacquiao was left at the negotiating table, like when you fought Clottey.
     
  2. Anima

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    Back to reality.
    Floyd rejected both 50-50 and 55-45 (for the winner) splits.

    Bob Arum has nothing to derail because Floyd walked away from it.
    Why the hell are people acting like its Bob Arum's fault when he hasn't done anything about the "Current" negotiations.

    Now if Floyd accepted or at least countered with a reasonable offer.... We could see what Bob Arum is really doing.
     
  3. puga_ni_nana

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    the thing is floyd came out like he really wanted the fight with that twitter and facebook challenge and you guys ate them up like floyd is on a pacquiao mission.

    but when pac put a simple request that should not be an issue (50/50 split), floyd just took off and you guys still gave floyd the pass.

    after the cotto fight and floyd still prices himself out of the fight, you guys would still give him a pass as per usual.
     
  4. JASPER

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    Common, I know you have said this stupid stuff before but now i am starting to believe that you think what you are saying is true! Answer this, why is May 5th not the best date for the fight? Also, the MGM Grand holds the record for a live gate and Pac has fought all his biggest fights there . . . so why not his BIGGEST fight? This date and venue really should not even be a bone of contention . . . unless you do not want to have the fight.

    Arum does not want the fight so the date is wrong (after he found out PBF would not behind bars. Also despite the fact that both Pac and PBF fought Oscar at the MGM Grand.

    All that stuff you were saying about OSDT is a bunch of gibberish. when mega fights happen then you get demands that do not fit inside the box . . . i won't give you a history lesson but you should look it:deal
     
  5. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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  6. Toontoon

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    Because it's Arum's job to sit down and negotiate the fight, if he's not prepared to do that then the fight won't get made whatever split they agree too.

    He's refused to even answer his phone, he even admitted it.
     
  7. puga_ni_nana

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    you could say it the other way. even if arum goes on the table just like when he talked to haymon before but if floyd goes on vacations or floyd still rejects the fair 50/50 split, there would no fruitful negotiations until floyd removes all these roadblocks.
     
  8. JASPER

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    Maybe it was because Arum said if PBF wants to fight he should call so he did to kick off negos . . . why did arum say no fight even with 50-50?
     
  9. puga_ni_nana

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    arum offered floyd a $45M guarantee, why won't floyd call arum's bluff then?
     
  10. puga_ni_nana

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    arum was bent to move the date 2 or 3 weeks. he did not say no fight. but pacquiao, according to koncz, is ok with may 5th date and would insist that on arum as long as floyd accepted the 50/50 split.

    why did floyd ducked the 50/50 split?
     
  11. JASPER

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    Pac cannot fight without arum so split means nothing 1 before 2 remember? **** you are ******ed. ARum wanted the fight to happen after PBF was in jail . . . lol . . . what does that tell ya?
     
  12. mrjotatp4p

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    How can Arum offer Floyd a guarantee when Floyd is not his fighter and on top of that Arum was the one bitching saying that Floyd needs to come up with his own guarantee just a week prior to making his other statement.

    The way Floyd gets paid and the way Manny gets paid is totally different dude. This **** is not even up for debate. Your questions have been answered by several posters and only Floyd knows why he called Manny. We are not mind readers but since you want to play that game please answer a few questions for me.

    Why did Arum not take or respond to Shaefer and Ellerbe's call in November/Dec to start negotiations?

    Why did Arum not take any of the calls from Shaefer back in January and Arum even admitted that he didn't answer bc he doesn't know why he is calling?

    Oh and why did Arum come up with 35 excuses as to why the fight with Floyd won't happen right now?
     
  13. Toontoon

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    Seriously you are beyond debating with and whatever I say you will come running out with the "But Floyd rejected 50/50!!!" without looking at the bigger picture.

    Attempting to debate with you is both a waste of time and energy as you bring nothing new to the debate, it's just a wall of 50/50 comments that you constantly hide behind.

    I've even tried walking you through how Pacquiao can't make the fight without Arum negotiating and promoting it but you just don't get it, either that or you don't want to get it.

    You've even got Ariza blaming Arum but you just can't take it in that the fight can't happen without him making it as it will mean you can't blame Mayweather.

    I'm leaving it at that.
     
  14. puga_ni_nana

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    so floyd rejecting the 50/50 split means pac is at fault. *****logic at it's best.
     
  15. puga_ni_nana

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    i would return that question to you. How can floyd offer pac a guarantee when pac is not his fighter?

    arum is just returning the favor when floyd offered pac a $40M guarantee.

    the issue is really simple. floyd rejected the 50/50 split. if floyd feels his $40M offer was too generous, then he should have accepted arum's $45M offer of the same terms.