Pacquiao: Mayweather didn't want the fight

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  1. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    Floyd sent a message to Duboef. :deal
     
  2. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    35 excuses? :lol:

    so how about floyd demanding to drop the lawsuit before negotiating?
    that koncz is just a fan out to take his picture when pac sent him out to negotiate?
    offering pac a low-ball guarantee without PPV upside?
    and the final blow is to reject a fair 50/50 split when floyd called pac to start negotiating?

    so floyd calling pac was nothing but a media propaganda by floyd once again and not a start of informal negotiations? have you heard of back-channel negotiating?

    and floyd calling pacquiao was even a good start to talk since it's the fighters themselves that are talking and they are talking about the most important thing which is the money split.
     
  3. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Another idiot that does not know how the world works.

    1) both sides agree to fight

    2) the negotiations happen.

    Arum has to give an Ok to any fight. Arum said no from the beginning so 1 never happened so 2 does not exist.

    Arum killed the fight before it could even before negos could happen:deal
     
  4. puga_ni_nana

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    1) pac said 50/50 and floyd got the fight. floyd said no.

    2) so what's to negotiate then when floyd won't agree to 50/50?
     
  5. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    Arum was the one that said, "If Floyd wants to fight we will drop the lawsuit" :deal

    Who the hell is Koncz to negotiate and then show up with Joe ****ing Jackson to try and offer Floyd something. Joe Jackson has to get money from Kathryn just so he can ****ing eat. Are you serious dude. :rofl:rofl
     
  6. JASPER

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    Because his position was a starting point for Nego's (a lot of other things have to be worked out). Why would he give up leverage, like Pac did when he said he would take less?
     
  7. puga_ni_nana

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    who is suing floyd? you actually have the problem of tying arum with pacquiao automatically. arum could say it, but pac wants apology from floyd to drop the case.

    meanwhile floyd said, pac should drop the case first before the negotiates with pac.
     
  8. JASPER

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    Ring size, glove size, type of gloves, who comes in last, who is introduced last . . . the colour of gloves for christ sake, the **** goes on and on?

    I have a question for you; if OSDT is OK now why was it an issue 3 years ago?

    BTW Pac cannot say yes without BOB because of this contract you constantly forget about
     
  9. puga_ni_nana

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    because it means pac wanted the fight and just want to get over with it already.

    so it was a starting point but floyd ran away to negotiate with cotto. so it means that he doesn't really want to fight pac in the first place.
     
  10. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    Floyd had every right to negotiate with anyone bc Arum wasn't coming to the table, making calls or returning calls. By the way Arum was negotiating with team Cotto as well but got turned down bc they wanted it at 147!:lol::lol::yikes
     
  11. puga_ni_nana

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    these were all settled before. ring size is the standard 20x20 vegas size. gloves would be 80z just like before. pac has already deferred the title billing and the the one who would walk last to floyd last time out.

    all of these are settled until floyd's team accuse pac of using PEds publicly during nego and added a stipulation of OSDT.

    even 50/50 was not an issue then and even for you *****s, it was not an isue until floyd rejected it now.

    OSDT is ok now since pac has conceded to make the fight. pac has not outright refused it then and just asked for cut-off which floyd refused.
     
  12. Scar

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    Arum didn't want the date either. The ball was in Arum's court from the very start, both sides kept complicating things till it was officially off. Even Arum came out and said things should be "better" if they negotiate for November.

    BOTH sides are full of ****.
     
  13. Boxing Fanatic

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    lol 16 pages already on recycled bs
     
  14. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    well it's ok since cotto is a damaged fighter already and pac would not get any credit if he beats him a second time.

    i'm asking another ***** this question: "so why didn't floyd just accepted 50/50 and put the ball in arum's court then?"

    and he answered with this one: "Because his position was a starting point for Nego's (a lot of other things have to be worked out). Why would he give up leverage, like Pac did when he said he would take less?"

    then i answered with this: "so it was a starting point but floyd ran away to negotiate with cotto. so it means that he doesn't really want to fight pac in the first place."

    but your answer is this: "Floyd had every right to negotiate with anyone bc Arum wasn't coming to the table, making calls or returning calls."

    which does not make any sense since you are basically admitting that floyd priced himself out of a pac fight to fight someone else. :lol:
     
  15. Ilesey

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    So, who was at fault then?