Pacquiao: "Mayweather Has No Reason Not To Fight Me"

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  1. janeschicken

    janeschicken hard work! deadicayshin! Full Member

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    Yeah, if you really wanted to see this fight happen, you wouldn't be in favour of one side coming back to the negotiating table changing their demands from only three months prior.
     
  2. MooseKnuckle

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    All we can do is hope that these two divas realize they're boxers and just make the fight happen, for one Floyd needs to stop with the melodramatic horse**** of the roids and the testing, yes he is right he deserves a level playing field, but unfortunately for him he is not the athletic commision to make demands like the ones he's making. Perhaps he should focus his good intentions and his energy in creating a governing body for ALL boxing in the us, these two stars have the chance to take this situation and turn it into something positive by perhaps lobbying for a uniform testing procedure which would be used in such governing body. On the other hand you have Pac and his lame excuses for the testing refusal, instead be an example to the rest of the boxing world and step up and prove that he's not on steroids no matter where the claims come from.

    There are other fighters out there calling for better testing, judging, refereeing and all the other basics that make the sport exciting, unfortunately the superstars in the sport that really could make a difference are too busy stroking their own egos to realize the amazing opportunity right in front of them, What better way to leave behind a legacy than to be part of the change that brings the sport, the athletes to a new better level and also give the fans what they want.
     
  3. Buzz Killington

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    Pac fans have nothing but excuses. Easiest way for the fight to get made is for Pac to take the tests NO CUTOFF. Why the **** is this a negotiation? It's the easiest thing in the world, TAKE THE TESTS, NO CUTOFF, NO SPECIAL CONDITIONS. If Pac agrees to that and Floyd backs out, then Pac fans can talk. Until then STFU.
     
  4. Leon

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    Explain the logic behind how random blood testing is great for the sport, but when it's initiated by Floyd it's evil?:huh
     
  5. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    Floyd : What!? Pac is in the hospital!!!?? ELLERBE HONEY!!!! Make the fight Happen this SATURDAY WHILE HE'S STILL SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If he doesn't fight me this weekend he's ducking me!!!!
     
  6. Buzz Killington

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    Pac fan = :scaredas:

    :good
     
  7. eko718

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    In a fight negotiation two sides come to terms or there is no fight, it doesn't have to be written into the NSAC, that's irrelevant. 10 million per pound over weight limit isn't an NSAC standard either.

    The random drug testing thing started with Manny because he thinks Manny is on something, plain and simple. I don't know whats so hard to understand about this. Manny balking at full USADA testing and making such a stark 180 AFTER HE AGREED TO IT AT THE START OF NEGOTIATIONS, would make anyone even more suspicious.

    Whoever feels they have the upper hand in these negotiations has the prerogative to stick to their guns. The only guy who doesn't want to take a drug test is a guy scared of getting caught, bottom line. People thought Floyd was scared of Shane...he dispelled that myth. If they do get in the ring and Manny gets his ass beat(which he likely will), I look forward to seeing what the tone of these forums will be. Too much hate, too much bias. I like Pacquiao, but his 'fans' have crossed over to 'fanaticism'. Anything that comes out this guys mouth is gospel. Manny doesn't make excuses, he just has 'good reasons'. These dudes will get in the ring when BOTH sides calm their ego's and come to terms. If they don't then they don't.
     
  8. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    Because the issue with random blood testing was brought up when it was time for FLoyd to face pacquiao. All of a sudden random blood testing was an issue. Before it was the catchweights.

    Floyd is ducking Pacquiao

     
  9. janeschicken

    janeschicken hard work! deadicayshin! Full Member

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    Please, we all know the Olympic style testing is a very SPECIAL CONDITION. As in: it isn't mandated by any boxing commission at this time. And when was the last time you heard of a Multi-Miliion-dollar boxing match (or any fight, for that matter) deteriorating because one fighter refused to adhere to such an stipulation?

    Let's be real, we all know you're just trolling on here, but if we're being honest with one another, Manny has more than his share of blame from the first round of failed negotiations. Now he has come back to the table meeting mayweather's proposal and Mayweather has flopped on not only the drug testing, but supposedly the split as well. To make things deliciously ironic, I highly doubt Pacquiao could beat Mayweather anyway, but obviously Floyd is worried enough about him that he hides behind stipulations and rules he refused to put in place for ANY FIGHTER PRIOR.
    :deal
     
  10. Leon

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    I don't know anyone else that would buy the stupid, "He doesn't make the rules", excuse.:good It's not like emmanuel is some angel who doesn't try to put in his own rules, eg: forcing someone to put up their title at a catchweight.
     
  11. JasonChaos27

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    Look, whether or not its agame Mayweather is playing, it doesnt really matter anymore. Mosley agreed to the testing and he was fine, many other boxers are calling for it. Pac now agreeing to the 14 day cutoff after he was already offered and turned it down in the first place is a ***** move. Just agree and take the ****ing random tests with no cut off date and fight. If youve got nothing to hide, worst case scenario, Mayweather feels like he won some sort of psychological victory..so what beat his ass in the ring.
     
  12. gyll

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    I sincerely hope Pac is just padding his way through the deal. In other words, if he doesn't get the 14 day deal, he'll settle for no cutoff date. In business you always want to ask for something better than your last resort. I don't blame him for using such tactic but I'm wondering why he is so determined to get a cutoff date. It makes him look like he isn't man enough to go through with the tests.

    In my honest opinion he really shouldn't get a cutoff date. I'm aware that he's a huge star but he shouldn't get a special privilege in this situation. Why should he?! In the history of Olympic Sports nobody has ever asked for a compromise in regards to blood tests. And it shouldn't change. What's the point of conducting a test if it's a watered-down version of it? To ensure accuracy at the highest level all athletes should follow the original protocol. Manny's real privilege is getting paid $40 million or more and that should be good enough.

    Would you want an alarm system that works 98% of the time or one that works 100% at all times? If I'm going through a pat-down search by a police officer, do you really think it's reasonable for me to say, " Hey, I'm Manny Pacquiao. You may search up top but you cannot search the lower region of my body because I'm not comfortable with that."??? You see where I'm going with this?
     
  13. MooseKnuckle

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    It is good for the sport because it sets up ONE standard which all fighters must follow and ONE standard of testing for ALL fighters.

    I did not say it was evil when initiated by floyd, What I did say is that he is not in any authoritative position (i.e an athletic commissioner) to make such a demand which supercedes the governing athletic commision's requirements.

    IT IS a good initiative but I believe Floyd should instead band together with all other fighters who support his cause and make the push for ONE standard for all boxing, it would not only help him achieve his goal of USADA style testing AND it would benefit the sport that has made him who he is.
     
  14. Leon

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    NSAC and NYSAC is considering.:good
     
  15. janeschicken

    janeschicken hard work! deadicayshin! Full Member

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    Are we in disagreement here? Of course, but Mayweather's hypocrisy about cleaning up the sport of boxing has only come into play since his father came out and said Manny is on something. Why do they feel this way? They are obviously impressed with the performances he's putting on and consider him a threat -- again, if this was an issue of consistency and Floyd's goal was truly to clean up the sport, why didn't he request it of Marquez? Let's separate the idealism from the reality for a minute and see this was all borne from perceptions of Manny's spectacular performances of late and Manny alone.


    Allowing other fighters to move up just as precipitously in weight without the stipulations and reneging on previous negotiation terms is not exactly what I would call "sticking to your guns".
    :huh