Pacquiao: "Mayweather Has No Reason Not To Fight Me"

Do you understand what a privilege is? It applies when you are privy to something most people don't have. How is it a privilege to have a demand for Olympic-style drug testing which had been a deal-breaker for no other negotiations prior to this, and is extraneous to every boxing commissions current guidelines on testing?

 

You're contradicting yourself. Mosley didn't get a cutoff date. So why should Pacquiao have the privilege to work with one? He would be getting a peculiar benefit which means it's a privilege. How do you not understand this? I understand the guy has a huge name but a test....is a test. Take it for what it is and don't make an attempt to cut corners.

 

manny is saying this because floyd has said its random up to the fight or nothing, manny and arum want margarito not floyd

 

So, the natural question here is:

Why isn't Pacquaio 'supporting this cause'? And why are his fans, especially the ones who believe it is 'good for the sport', NOT putting pressure on Pac to do so?

 

Agreed :good

 

Cause they're desperate to see the fight. They want it here as soon as possible. Never mind the logic or common sense like the bigger draw fighting for a greater purse split.

 

I never said anything regarding Mayweather 'cleaning up the sport', so I'm not sure what the point is. Nevertheless, the 'cleaning up the sport' bit is just the public face put on this thing to strengthen his negotiation position, just as Pacquiao's camp purporting that Mayweather is 'scared' of fighting tough opposition/ of him is their method of strengthening their position.

He didn't ask Marquez to take tests because he/his team didn't suspect Marquez of PED abuse... quite simple. Most objective persons not swayed by media, bias and popular opinion can perceive why Manny Pacquiao using PED's is not such a heinous assumption. Its not so much his so called 'spectacular' performances as it is his physical condition in those performances compared to the past.

Weak. The stipulations have nothing to do with a guy moving up in weight, they have to do with Manny Pacquiao.

This reneging on previous negotiation terms is something that is actually familiar to Pacquiao, whereas he agreed to full USADA testing from the outset of their original negotiation and then reneged. The mention of Floyd's weight in the Marquez fight is completely irrelevant to the discussion...you're reaching.

Bottom line, my question is SINCE WHEN DID RANDOM DRUG TESTING BECOME A BAD THING? Funny thing is, its not a bad thing to most people because Floyd brought it up, its a bad thing because Manny is scared of it. If Manny was game and followed through with the test, no one would be talking all this Floyd is scared BS.

 

RANDOM TESTING is random testing, no cutoff. Please don't confuse a negotiated point with a special condition because, if that's the case, Floyd has already agreed to all of Manny's "special conditions."

 

Well only manny can answer that, the problem he has is that by refusing he is opening himself to speculation, as far as why his fans aren't putting pressure on him that's easy, they're not boxing fans, they're pacquiao fans, of course his die hard fans will blindly believe anything the pacquiao pr people put out, same goes for the die hard floyd fans, but they are most definitely NOT BOXING fans, they are just fans of their fighters.

 

They want Manny to win even if he does it dirty. And the 50/50 split is so that people will acknowledge Manny as a fighter who is Floyd's equal even though the PPV numbers clearly show otherwise.

 

And who the fakk cares about the ppv's, the issue here now is, who is the better fighter (or boxer whatever you want to call it). If this fight will not get made, this will end up another one of those ESB fantasy match ups. Pathetic... :-(

 

I don't think anybody is crazy for putting a cloud of suspicion over Manny's head after his extraordinary performances in recent times. Is it so wrong of me to tighten up my security system when I see that my neighbors have been getting robbed and I see you walking down the street acting peculiar or doing something a bit out of the ordinary? I'm all for the, "innocent until proven guilty" shtick. But I don't know you and I don't have to trust you. This does not make me a bad guy. It does not mean I'm assuming you're on drugs or you're a serial killer. I'm simply looking out for own good and there is nothing unethical about this.

If Floyd had requested an OSDT demand for Marquez...Hatton...any of his 40 opponents, he'd be facing the same music. Nothing would change. He'd still be ridiculed by fans of his respective opponents. Any number of things could be apparent in Mayweather's head. He could have woken up one morning and said to himself, "I see that guys are experiencing brain damage. Guys like Vargas, Mosley, and Toney have been known to use PEDs. I should really be more careful about who I'm doing business with. I take pride in my undefeated record. I'm going to make a change."

A change has to start at some point. Let's disregard what's factually on Floyd's agenda. We're not mind readers and we'll never know what's on his mind. What people need to focus on is the fact that we now have a more reliable drug testing system. There should not be backlash because it's something that's done for the greater good, whether intentional or not. These elite boxers whom we talk about - they are getting paid an eyebrow-raising amount of dollars. Making them work a little harder by taking a few extra blood tests isn't unreasonable. In fact, I think it's crucial.

 

Great points. Now let's make it official for ALL boxers and not try to make it too obvious that everyone is targeting only 1 boxer and discouraging the young up and coming boxers from working too hard or they'll be held suspicious as well.

There was a fight last night between Vasquez and Marquez. Funny there was no thread on ESB or elsewhere about not having blood testing in that fight. :think

 

Quit being a nuthugger and just be real. This fight should be 50/50, and the 14-day cutoff is perfectly fair. If Floyd doesn't agree to that, he's a big ***** and he's ducking the fight period.

 

so when does this new demands stop. if pac agree to unlimited testing, what will floyd demand next, testing in between rounds? if pac agrees to testing between rounds, will floyd demand a 60/40 split? but you guys will still defend your boytoy no matter what.