Pacquiao Might Have Blueprint to Beat Mayweather

*******s i am not talking **** so don't get your panties in a wad when I give my opinion, k bitches.

I really don't think Pacquiao has the style nor the attributes.

IMO, I THINK THE ORIGINAL OPINION, PRE DECEMBER 2008, IS WHAT IT REALLY TAKES TO BEAT FLOYD.

A big WW (Pac is not), with big shoulders (Pac does not have, with great speed (Pac has), excellent footwork (Pac definitely does not have), good handspeed (pac has), and the ability to push Floyd around on the inside (Pac is horrible on the inside-not talking **** *******s, just saying-he has 0 inside game), and great timing (Pac has average timing, JMM has much much better timing to give you an idea), and a lot of versatility (Pac mos def not THAT versatile).

So again, Pac is just hype-he never fit the ORIGINAL IDEA of what it would take to beat Floyd-A Vernon Forrest style or maybe even an Andre Berto who has VERY EXPLOSIVE HANDS (Floyd would take every round if Berto didn't land that "one explosive shot."

Pacquiao don't have it-Plus Pac himself said he has problems with counter punchers and good defense...Floyd is the best counter puncher in the game and has much better defense than JMM.

OK *******s let's here why I'm wrong and why you don't need anything that the ORIGINAL OPINION suggested....Keep in mind this is the actual opinion that was originated on what it would take to beat Floyd..Lemme guess *******s, now that Pacquiao is in the WW division, this is never what it took huh?

Pac has certain aspects but he isn't complete to be able to pull off the win

 

how is the 2009 version any different from the current version stylistically?

 

I actually think Pac might have more chance now than he did before. This is because Mayweather is using less movement these days -- now that he's older, he has a more economical style where he doesn't consume much stamina, and only moves as much as he needs to. He relies more on the high guard and combining steady pressure with potshots.

This shift clearly works for him, but I think the old, more youthful version of Floyd would have been much more comfortable taking on Pac. Look at the footwork and constant movement he used against Corrales -- Pac wouldn't have been able to cope with that. Even the Mayweather from the Hatton fight would have had him chasing shadows. Now, though...I actually don't know if he can use that style anymore. He's much less mobile, and more dependent on standing his ground or pushing people back with subtle pressure. His defence is still superb, but I can't help thinking that this version of Floyd is more vulnerable.

 

Ive always liked Pacs style against Floyd , its easy to see when you look at there habits. The only problem has always been the size difference. A size advantage is hard to overcome against Floyd - but since Floyd tends to fight southpaws straight up without using a lot of movement and he likes to press the attack , that would work in pacquiao's favor. Pac just eats up stationary/ linear opponents, and Floyd's second big gaping hole is that he doesnt put punches together and he lays back on defense. Pac really has the upper hand in a lot of areas in this matchup. The guys who gave pac the most trouble were tough, convential mexican boxers. Floyd doesn't fall into taht category.

 

This article couldn't be more wrong. First of all Floyd doesn't have to give tons of movement in order to control the range which he is great at. He also creates angles as well that most of you Pac fans don't see and his foot work will give Manny tons of problems. Floyd also fights tall for his height as well.

The main thing that you get caught up on is Mayweather not moving all around the ring. He doesn't have to do that but you have to ask yourself can he do it? We all know the answer to that since a lot of you use to call him a runner. So if Floyd does get on his toes and start moving then what does Manny do? He can't cut off the ring so then what? Answer that for me.

 

As they get older, most fighters lose the ability to do this. Ali, for example, used to dance all over the ring but had to change his style as his career progressed. I remember Malignaggi saying that the same thing happened to Whitaker -- he became more flatfooted as he got older. Some guys are still able to use constant movement even when they get older (like Hopkins when he fought Calzaghe, or Marquez against Pac in their latest match) but I don't see it very often.

Mayweather hasn't really used that 'constantly moving and boxing' style since he fought Hatton in 2007. That's quite a while ago, especially when considering his constant 'retirements' and breaks. I do wonder if he can still go back to that style.

 

If you want to see Mayweather really control range without giving tons of movement then just look at the Marquez fight. His foot work was A+ in that one.

 

Stylistically he is the same, athletically he's not. He's clearly not as explosive as he was in 2009 for instance

 

Mayweather has great footwork. I agree that he definitely knows what he's doing regardless of when he's constantly moving or just using small steps. He's always effective. I think the point, however, is that Pac would struggle more against a constantly moving Mayweather than he would against the less mobile version we've seen in recent fights. It doesn't mean Pac would beat him (I've always favoured Mayweather) but it does seem to boost his chances.

 

I've been wanting to know this as well. Too bad those reporters/journalists are too lazy to ask him anything relating to how he's using less movement nowadays.

 

Whenever Floyd say "I'm not going to move" to build his upcoming fights, I want one of them[writers/reporters/journalists] to say, "Most boxing fans have been saying that you can't no longer use your legs for lateral movements as much as you used to."


Of course, he might shrug it off and pretend it's an irrelevant statement. But if you more people continue to bring it up, he'll eventually have to respond.

 

Very good article:good

 

Kellerman asked him in the faceoff with Ortiz and even asked if his legs were gone and Floyd said that he doesn't have to move.

 

Stylistically against certain Boxers, he doesn't have to move at all. His upper body movement is very effective, but against Manny, he'd have to use his legs a bit more than he has his last two fights.

 

LOL,

Let me ask one question......

Pac has no jab, cannot be missed with a straight right even if you tried, don't move his head and is absolute clueless in cutting off the ring..........plus his power at WW is AVERAGE at best.

At times he looked like a total amateur swinging wildly into air chin sticking out against marquez...that does not give you Pac fans concern?............fact not fiction. Did Mayweather/Hearns/Leonard/ODH etc etc ever even when washed up looked like that ? Never. Time to seperate hype from reality, if you are weightdrained, just got the **** beat out of you in your last fight and you are flatfooted with no defense standing toe to toe with Pac he is going to look like a million bucks...........start to box him and he looks like the one trick pony he really is .Fact.

Mayweather will/would beat Pac at ANY time at ANY weight in their respective careers.......Roach knows it, Arum knows it. Pac knows it...........that is the sole reason the fight has not happened, they are going to milk the cow until it is dry and using Mayweather strictly as a marketing tool to stay in the spotlight aka promoting the hype.

When and if they eventually meet the fight will be a total let down , I have said that for many years and Pac will be stopped because he will force the stoppage .