I don't think he will have to use them much but I do agree it will be a little more than he did against Ortiz at times. He has a jab that will create space as well against Manny and his feet are quick enough to stay at long range. I think the fight with him and Manny will look similar to the Marquez/Mayweather fight. I know one thing though. If Floyd does get on his toes then Manny will be in a world of trouble.
Floyd has not lost his legs. He is heavier now and 147-154 ponders don't bounce around like 130 lb fighters. He is still quick on his feet and has no problem controlling range or taking angles. Manny's lack of range and inside fighting skills will be his downfall against Floyd. Manny will come into Floyd's range first. This will allow Floyd to always get off first. If Pac tries to get off first he will be out of range and will fall short and get countered. If Manny does get to his spot Floyd will slide in tie him up get off a few shots or just reset him. The other problem Manny has is Floyd has a great right hand and that is something Pac recent opponents(other than Marquez) were all lacking.
Just read the whole article; not the best writing style but these are basic points that if exploited well could work in Manny's favor. If you don't get out of the way of that straight left, it's always a liability. Ceding ground to a mobile explosive southpaw who works with angles would be the wrong thing to do.
Bro, I hoisted up the same article titled, 'Bogotazo, Wiley from Sweet Science agrees with you...' he hit on the same points you brought up a couple of months ago. For some reason the thread got taken down. I'm surprised no one gave you credit after reading the same analysis from a reputable analyst.
PAC will not find floyd with his straight left. Floyd always neutralizes his opponents best punch. He also will not cede ground to Pac without making him pay.
How does Manny deal with Floyd's range advantage if Floyd is just as fast as Manny and Manny can't fight on the inside?
Damn man I guess they don't like explicit mentions of other sites/writers...but I appreciate that! He did hit on a lot of the same essential points. Maybe he's an ESB lurker :yep But thanks for the compliment, does Wiley have a good reputation? It took him 4 rounds to figure Judah out after touching the canvas, and even when he was dominating would occasionally get popped by a hard left. It's a liability you can't fully escape without consistent lateral movement. Turning Floyd helps negate his reach advantage, and his fast feet combined with a low center of gravity allow him to come forward and under his punches. Manny sucks on the inside but he's not a swarmer, and hes' not going to press an inside fight; neither is Floyd. Only time he's on the inside is when someone presses on him, which Manny just doesn't do.
This isn't the way to fight Pacquiao.. [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAhhfdeLON8[/ame] Not that Floyd wouldn't have success fighting this way but he's putting himself right where Pacquiao would want him by standing flat footed and not giving lateral movement. This is simply a stylistic tendancy of floyd who relies more on his upperbody for defense then his legs.
Judah caught him with the right hook to get the knockdown. I agree he will get hit occasionally early on. I disagree that he needs constant lateral movement, but it will play heavily into the game plan along with walking PAC down later on. Floyd will be very unpredictable with his movements so he keeps Manny thinking...one reason Pac punch output will drop. Floyd's feet are just as fast, Manny will not easily turn him like Margo, clottey etc. Floyds timing and unpredictability will make it hard for Pac to come in under his punches. Floyd can get off first in this fight and from a range that manny cannot counter. And when Manny tries to get off first he will be in Floyd's range before he finds his own and he will pay. When PAC does find an angle and closes the range Floyd will step inside and tie up use the elbow and get off a shot or he can reset him and step away.
Good thread about time there was one that had limited fanboy rants. Tho there are obvious differences in the ways Marquez and Mayweather carryout their counterpunching, there's the general thought that whatever Jmm does Floyd can equal or do better and I don't necessarily find that completely true. Marquez and Beristein have a belief called "la zona de combate" or combate zone and whoever controls that has the upper hand. Jmm always matched Pacman punch for punch and made Pacquiao miss many of his shots using foot movement and because Pacquiao has the habit of feinting alot and throwing 5-6 punches at a time landing only half it seems he's landing more. Jmm is not a potshot fighter he lives off of combination punching. Floyd on the other hand rarely does to prevent getting countered himself. He's not the risk taker Marquez is and uses combos only when in serious trouble like when he got hurt vs Mosley or has been dominating an opponent to the verge on stopping him like Ortiz. Marquez will stand and trade. Floyd will find a pattern, expose it, and reset back into his defensive stance. If Manny was a good infighter he'd have a great chance. If he couldn't solve the Marquez puzzle most likely he won't solve Floyd, but if Floyd can't solve Mannys unpredictability it may be a long night for him.
He fighting that way because he has sharmbay in front of him. He knows his opponent is not even as good as some of his sparring partners were.
He's fought that way against every southpaw he's faced. It's a style tendency of his to rely on upper body for defense then his legs. He likes to be aggressive against southpaws and get off first. See the Ortiz / Judah / Corley fights and it's the same thing. Some of these habits play into Pacquiao hands, but some don't like his counter punching ability / IQ , etc.
Not a bad article, some good points made even if it was nothing new. The guys not the best writer though, he takes too long making points and he seems a little bit biased although he does make accurate points which have been raised by others.